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From: Ross Entered on: August 4, 2003 10:55 AM
Here are the top listings for those who don't want to read the articles:     WORST:     10) Fantastic Four (I have this if you guys want to watch it)   9) Daredevil   8) Batman 2, 3 & 4   7) Spawn   6) Superman III & IV & Supergirl   5) Captain America   4) Nicky Fury, Agent of Shield   3) The Punisher   2) Steel   1) Howard the Duck     BEST:     10) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles   9) Blade   8) From Hell   7) The Crow   6) The Hulk   5) Superman   4) Superman II   3) Spider-Man   2) X-Men 2   1) Batman
From: John Entered on: August 4, 2003 11:48 PM
The fact that Daredevil ranks as number nine in the worst catagory is overly harsh. It wasn't great, but come on, in the top ten worst comic book movies of all time, I think not.
From: Ross Entered on: August 5, 2003 6:58 AM
Yeah, I agree with much of both lists, but that part isn't fair. I also think the Hulk ranks too high, as the Crow was definitely a better movie. I'd probably even rank Hulk behind the original X-Men.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 5, 2003 9:23 AM
I'd rate Daredevil over Tank Girl (which didn't even make the Worst list).
From: Ross Entered on: August 5, 2003 2:09 PM
Actually what's really absurd is that the Fantastic Four movie is only the 10th worst on their list. Practically every movie in the list was better. It was never released due to licensing issues and apparently it was only made in the first place because there were contractual obligations to do so. So it was the most half-assed movie ever. And as far as super heroes go, Mr. Fantastic, The Thing, and the Human Torch are among the most special-effects-heavy characters I can think of. You guys have no idea how badly it was realized on screen. I downloaded this turkey on the net a while back and I haven't even had the gumption to sit through the whole thing, even for humor value. Come to think of it, though, it would probably make for some pretty amusing watching for you guys at Zilla's house. If you want it, let me know.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 5, 2003 3:51 PM
I watched a bootleg video of The Fantastic Four a few years ago. I actually fell asleep watching it. You can ask Angie. My favorite (worst) part of the movie is how Reed Richards is like a 30-something with real fake silver streaks in his hair. What -- They couldn't get a REAL older guy with REAL silver streaks?     It was bad.     And I like how Mr. Fantastic's abilities were shown via Wrist-Cam (tm). You don't see the arm grow, you just see this hand traveling outward.     When they decide to do a real, big budget F4, it could be super sweet. There's just a ton of cool possibilities there! I'm glad Spidey 2 is next year, cuz The Punisher (also next year) never really did anything for me.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 5, 2003 3:58 PM
WIZARD magazine just did the same comic movie theme issue last month. They ranked 50 comic movies. Here's their:     BEST:   1) X2   2) Spider-Man   3) Superman II ("Bow down to Zod!" is classic, my friends!)   4) Superman   5) Road To Perdition   6) X-Men   7) Ghost World   8) The Rocketeer   9) Batman   10) Blade     I think I like their list better. I forgot about The Rocketeer -- That WAS a good, fun movie! And Jennifer Connelly was in full effect! I would throw Batman into the Top 3 though.     ...   41) Supergirl   42) Tank Girl   43) Capt. America   44) Conan the Destroyer   45) Superman IV   46) Fantastic Four   47) Virus (?)   48) Red Sonja   49) Steel   50) Batman & Robin
From: The Bone Entered on: August 6, 2003 8:57 AM
I just watched Daredevil a couple of days ago for the first time. While I wouldn't rank it #9 on Bert's list it is still a major turd. It had a great cast and a decent budget, however it just plain fuckin sucked. Spider-Man was far sweeter. Bullseye was pretty sweet and Elektra was kung-pow! I can't believe Roche paid good money to own this fuckin crippled movie. You should have bought a kaliedescope instead. Or at least have Ross download it for you.
From: Ross Entered on: August 6, 2003 9:20 AM
I've had the opportunity to download Daredevil for many months now and refrained. In fact, I too purchased the DVD yesterday, turd though the movie was. The reason: the extra shit. Not so much for the filmmaking extras, but for the comic book extras. You see, Roche and I both loved the Daredevil of our youth, and even if this ramshackle attempt at putting our hero on film was less than ideal, we both need to have a copy. Plus I love Frank Miller and I knew there was an interview with him on the disc.     Here's how the characters break down for me:     Daredevil - Craptastic. He is not even a shadow of the comic book version. From Assfuck's improper build, improper costume, improper training, improper voice, and lack of presence, this is the most heinous transgression of the film.     Matt Murdock - Nowhere to be found. Instead, we have a blind version of the same character Shitfleck plays in every movie.     Elektra - JG is hot, but she is so far from Elektra that I shudder to use the two names in the same sentence. Elektra was mysterious, menacing, and deadly. AND SHE HAD BLACK HAIR! She was Greek, for chrissakes! And what's up with the Xena costume? Elektra of the comics had such a sweet outfit, but no...     Bullseye - Okay, he was pretty sweet, though had only a passing resemblance to the comic book version. Obviously the comic book costume wouldn't work well onscreen, and his movie costume was basically alright. He was probably the best aspect of the movie, but still didn't blow my skirt up too much.     Kingpin - It has nothing to do with skin color, and everything to do with demeanor: the Kingpin of Crime is not a jolly fucking giant! The Kingpin of the Frank Miller Daredevils was far more menacing, a fellow to not be trifled with. This one was smiling all the goddamn time.     Ben Urich - No resemblance whatsoever to the reporter in the comics.     Foggy Nelson - Dead on. Comic relief and one of the better aspects of the movie.     Jack Murdock - One of the better resemblances. Shouldn't have been hard since both the comic book and movie versions are fairly minor characters.     The other major gripes are the fact that physics are suspended routinely, people leap like Spider-Man between buildings with no explanation of how they do it. And for all these superhuman powers, no one has anything resembling superhuman fighting skills. How dissapointing.     Speaking of Frank, Bone, I am curious to hear your take on Ronin after you read it. I think Ronin is probably his least accessible graphic novel and most superhero-reading comic fans do not much care for it, even though it won many awards. It's not really one of my favorites, though for me as a huge fan, it's more like a history lesson as it shows the key transition between Frank's superhero days and his modern work. He's mentioned in interviews how his natural style of artwork was supressed by Marvel when he started work on comics, and he had to fit the traditional look of their comics. When he agreed to do a graphic novel for DC, he basically said that he was going to do whatever the hell he wanted and the art would look however he wanted it to. And that's what Ronin is. It basically paved the way for comics like Sin City, which is easily one of my top five comics of all time.
From: Creeko Entered on: August 6, 2003 11:20 AM
I've never been a big comic book fan, in fact the only comic book I've ever bought was The Flaming Carrot at a garage sale.   I saw Daredevil last week and it licked my balls. Ben Ballsack is the last person I would have chosen to play a super hero.   Aside from Good Will Hunting, I cant remember any other decent Assflack movies.     As for the list above, in my non-comic book fan opinion:     Spidey gets my vote for #1     Superman was sweet in it's day but todays big-budget super productions make it look like a school play.
From: The Bone Entered on: August 6, 2003 1:33 PM
I finished Ronin and I liked it. It wasn't at all what I expected. The story was so different from the traditional comic theme that I can see how it is a transitional piece for the whole genre of dark, serious graphic novels. I would like to read Sin city. I know Roche liked it as well. Frank Miller is pretty sweet when he's being creative and is doing what he wants to do. I just took inventory of my comic collection today and I re-read a couple of his that were only ok.     I've always liked the Punisher but the upcoming movie is garaunteed to suck just like the turd with Dolph Lundgren. It, like Daredevil, is just something that can't be made into a sweet movie, or at least is difficult to do. I think Daredevil should be made into a weekly series on the WB, like Smallville. The Punisher should be left to comics.
From: John Entered on: August 6, 2003 3:03 PM
As Bert mentioned earlier I love DD so much that I even had to have the crappy movie version. The sweetest thing about the dvd is the extra stuff. I love the comic book section including interviews with the likes of Stan the man Lee, Frank Miller and John Romita, just to name a few. This made the dvd worth owning for me. I knew before it came out that it would have sweet comic book extras and it didn't disappoint in this respect.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 6, 2003 3:35 PM
John: "crappy movie version"? Dude, we both liked DD, don't be frontin'! Perhaps my liking it had a little to do with the fact my expectations were low (and I've never been a huge DD fan). Regardless I thought they did a good job with the film. I liked it better than Blade (which I enjoyed). And it was way better than Lara Croft: Turd Raider.     Bone: I'm not a big Affleck fan either (I don't hate him, I'm rather indifferent to him), but besides Good Will Hunting (one of the few touchy-feely Robin Williams roles I've liked), don't forget Affleck in the Kevin Smith flicks. I thought Chasing Amy was excellent. Oh yeah, glad you enjoyed Ronin. I should re-read that one (I haven't read it since the 80's). I should re-read The Watchmen too.     Bone & Ross: Thanks for your Rookies purchases!
From: John Entered on: August 6, 2003 5:20 PM
I enjoyed the DD movie to some degree as he was one of my favorite charaters in the Marvel Universe. I believe strongly that it could have been done better. Even though JG is hot as hell, she is not Electra. Many of the plot devises were just fucked versions of the comic book and I had hoped for better. Still, Zilla is right, I was able to overlook some of the stank and enjoy this movie.     I agree, Chasing Amy was indeed exellent. If you have not seen it Creeko, I advise that you do.     After watching the Frank Miller interview I felt a strong urge to read the Born Again DD issues. In my opinion these are among the best DD comics ever put to print. Only the Death of Electra rivals them and I believe they are both due for a re-read.
From: John Entered on: August 6, 2003 5:49 PM
I would also like to note that I was very diappointed that the DD movie did not capture his dynamic fighting style at all. The martial arts in this film sucked compared to the FM version of DD which was sweet as hell. Even the Dennis O'neal DD comic books portrayed an ass whupping very skilled DD. They should have trained Ben Assfuck better for the role, or if he was incapable they should have sought out someone that was. This should have been a martial art extravaganza, but it was far from it. I have thought that Matt Damon would have been much better suited for this role. Bert thought that this role was not MD's cup of tea, yet I saw a ridiculous preview with him and Greg Kinear as conjoined twins. At any rate Assfuck and his shitty style were not right for this movie.     With that said I would like to mention that I enjoyed seeing these characters even though they were not done as well as they could have been. My review of this movie is not as harsh as the Bone's. The Bone however was never a fan of DD or Spidey, so we have very different tastes when it comes to the superhero dudes we like. Creeko (also not a comic book fan) will probably not understand how it is that I like this movie even to a mild degree. For me it is a guilty pleasure which is to say I sometimes like bad movies even when I know they're bad. I'm sure everyone here has a movie they like that is technically a bad movie.
From: The Bone Entered on: August 6, 2003 6:25 PM
I actually like Daredevil even if he is a fuckin cripple. Also, I don't mind Affleck either. What they should have done is had him fight like Matt Damon in Bourne Identity with a ton of realistic acrobatics thown in. I shit on it because they're bouncing around from building to building in an unrealistic and supremely shitty way. If they can get Keanu Reeves to exhibit whomp ass style, I'm sure they could get Affleck to also. His costume was sweet though.
From: Ross Entered on: August 6, 2003 7:26 PM
Bone - you hit the nail on the head, and Roche and I had the EXACT SAME conversation about Matt Damon/Bourne Identity vs. Ben Affleck/Daredevil just last night. Uncanny.     But I shit on the costume. Why do we need to see his hairdo under it? That's just sloppy shit.
From: John Entered on: August 6, 2003 9:06 PM
I agree with the Bone on this one, the costume was pretty sweet. We did have the exact same conversation and that's what we thought too Bone. Also, I too hated the unrealistic bouncing from building to building. He did need to be jumping off buildings though, I just wish they had made it look more realistic.     Bert- I've seen Daredevil a couple of times since I've had it and I don't remember noticing his hairdo sticking out. I'll look for it next time. I still think the costume is pretty fuckin' sweet.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 6, 2003 9:22 PM
Hey, where would Barbwire (the movie starring Pamela Lee) rate? Has anyone here ever seen this movie? I didn't see the movie or read the second-rate Dark Horse comic it was based on. I gotta think it would make the 10 Worst List though.
From: Ross Entered on: August 6, 2003 10:04 PM
I actually was going to mention Barb Wire as one of the worst. I didn't see the whole thing, but I saw enough to see that it sucked the high hard one. Never read the comic though.
From: John Entered on: August 6, 2003 10:23 PM
I've seen some of Barb Wire as well and it was far shittier than Daredevil. In fact, with all the shitty comic book movies that have been made I find it hard to believe that someone would rank DD in the top ten. There are far crappier movies to chose from.
From: The Bone Entered on: August 7, 2003 10:14 AM
Barb Wire was akin to eating a petrified donkey turd. Not too tasty and doesn't go down smooth. As Pam is, the movie was far shittier than even Tomb Crapper and Tomb Crapper II: Kingdom of Stank.     On an entirely different note. Is anyone back on the Zone? I'm teatering on the brink. My parents are feeding me far healthier than the bacon cheeseburger style of GR, but it still isn't optimum - not by a long shot. I think when I finally get back to HI, I'm going to get seriously down and dirty with the full on Zone. At thirty yrs old its all downhill so I got to take precautions against being fat and old lookin.
From: Ross Entered on: August 7, 2003 10:41 AM
I am back on the Zone, albeit barely. I haven't packed my lunch all week and although I'm being reasonable when I go to the cafeteria (not to be confused with shitterteria), I'm good but not as good as a Ross-prepared meal. This week is going to be hard because of all the packing and moving, and I'm not even going to try to eat on the Zone when Fatty and Roche get here to help with the move. I also haven't worked out this week, either, but this weekend will make up for that, I'm sure.     I do plan to get back into full force once my life settles down again. The only trouble is that now Heather and I have to drive to the gym instead of walking, which definitely takes more gumption. So we'll see.
From: John Entered on: August 8, 2003 5:02 PM
The Loading Zone has been in effect and both Fatty and I have put weight on. We were both stronger in the gym today with Fatty putting up 225 on the bench. The added weight and over eating is good for the strength but not the waistline. After this weekend Fatty and I are changing our workout style. This is the right time for me to fire the real Zone back up.
From: Swerb Entered on: August 11, 2003 11:45 PM
Well, I just saw Daredevil for the first time, and I'm glad I didn't pay to see it in the theater... special effects and acting were cheesy, poor script and direction (and therefore very little sense of tension and the characters' emotions and motivations) DD's apparent newfound ability to leap 40 feet in the air, Elektra's "ninja 'Flashdance'" scene... but still not so awful as to belong on the top 10 worst comic book movies. Even Assfleck wasn't as bad as I expected. I guess, at best, the movie gives me greater appreciation for the comics.
From: Ross Entered on: August 16, 2003 11:19 AM
I forgot to mention my favorite super hero movie ever, that hasn't been on any of these lists: Unbreakable. Although it's not based on a comic book character, he is a super hero and it is based on comics.
From: Ross Entered on: March 29, 2004 12:19 PM
Some new news about the Elektra movie:     http://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=4075     Short story shorter: she's fighting Typhoid Mary. I remember how I hated Typhoid Mary in the comics, but I think that was mostly due to the fact that when she was introduced, the Daredevil comic was in the crapper - it was after Frank left, and thanks to him, Matt Murdock's life was upside-down and stayed that way for years. Problem was, sub-par writers took over. Anyway, this movie is going to suck, though probably not *quite* as bad as Catwoman. Nuff said.
From: Ross Entered on: April 22, 2004 3:12 PM
Get a load of this:     "Terence Stamp, who played the superpowered villain General Zod in 1980's "Superman II," is finalizing a return to the comic book genre with a role in Regency Enterprises and 20th Century Fox's "Elektra." Rob Bowman is directing the "Daredevil" spinoff from Marvel Studios. Jennifer Garner toplines. As the title character in "Elektra," Garner will play a beautiful and deadly assassin who was trained by the Hand, a clan of mystical ninjas. When she turns her back on them, they want her head. Stamp is in final negotiations to play Stick, Elektra's blind mentor, who has fighting abilities of his own."     For those who have read the Daredevil comics and know who Stick is, this will only further solidify the fact that this movie will suck. General Zod is a sweet actor, but Stick he is not. Stick is much more rough-and-tumble, harsher, meaner, and not British. Kind of like how Elektra is the antithesis of Jennifer Garner: highly skilled, mysterious, silent, and Greek.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: April 22, 2004 4:15 PM
KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!! The words "Jennifer Garner toplines" got me excited for a minute...
From: The Bone Entered on: April 23, 2004 12:49 AM
Weird but I never realized Zod was played by Terence Stamp. How did this escape my notice? I'm amazed.
From: Ross Entered on: July 9, 2004 4:32 PM
We haven't discussed the best/worst superhero movies of all time technically in almost a year. But I was thinking today that a lot has changed in a year. I am going to list what I think are the 10 ten best comic book movies of all time, and note that TV movies don't count. Feel free to lambast me for my choices:     1) Spider-Man 2   2) X-Men 2   3) Spider-Man   4) Superman   5) The Crow   6) Superman 2   7) Hellboy   8) X-Men   9) Batman   10) Blade     I am fairly comfortable with my choices 1-4. However, numbers 5-8 are nearly interchangable for me as far as rankings go. 9 and 10 are pretty solid, though.
From: The Bone Entered on: July 9, 2004 5:48 PM
I agree with your list with the exception that I'd swap Blade with X-Men and I haven't seen Hellboy.     However, Supernatural movies are sweeter than Superhero movies.
From: John Entered on: July 10, 2004 1:00 AM
Mine would go something like this....     1) Spider-Man 2   2) X-Men 2   3) Spider-Man   4) X-Men   5) The Crow   6) Superman   7) Batman   8) Blade   9) Hellboy   10) Superman 2
From: Ross Entered on: July 15, 2004 4:22 PM
Have you guys heard about the Fantastic Four casting? Michael Chiklis is going to be the Thing. Pretty cool.
From: The Bone Entered on: July 12, 2004 5:08 PM
I forgot, I'd rank Conan the Barbarian number 1. That movie was sweet as fuck.
From: Ross Entered on: July 15, 2004 9:03 AM
You're not going to like this, Bone: They found the Invisible Woman for the Fantastic Four movie:     http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,---2 2190,00.html     Roche, however, will be jerking off in his cornflakes.
From: The Bone Entered on: July 15, 2004 12:13 PM
Dude, it's a good thing she will be invisible because that pic was hideous, but hey, some people think monkey brain is a delicacy. There's no accounting for fucked up taste!
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 15, 2004 3:58 PM
Going back to the Best Comic Movie list: Y'all are crazy for puttin Superman 1 above 2. 2 had the sweet supervillains fight -- "Bow down before Zod!" Superman 1 had that crappy fly-around-the-world-to-turn-back-time crap. Plus, 1 had too much of Gene Hackman's sucky Lex.     Now, Bone... WHAT you don't like Jessica Alba?! Since WHEN!?
From: The Bone Entered on: July 15, 2004 4:12 PM
Since I developed good taste - on July 31st, 1973 to be precise.
From: Ross Entered on: July 15, 2004 4:21 PM
Whaddaya mean you don't like Jessica Alba? Jessica Alba is GOOD!     Superman 1 is just barely better than #2 in my opinion. The supervillain fight in the sequel is 2 parts sweet, 1 part cheese. Roche detests it when the super-breath tips over the guy in the phone booth and he keeps talking anyway. But yes, #1 did kind of fall apart in the end, but the first 2/3 of the movie is quite possibly the best origin tale in any movie (with the possible exception of Spider-Man but it's a close call).     Let's see YOUR list, Jack!
From: Ross Entered on: July 19, 2004 10:20 AM
Looks like Bryan Singer is directing the next Superman movie.     http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=598 &e=2&u=/nm/20040719/film_nm/film_superman_dc     Is this good or bad? I think Singer is great, but I want him to do another X-Men. I don't know if this fornicates that or not. Still, this is the most positive thing I've heard about the Superman franchise in a long time.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 19, 2004 11:05 AM
It may fornicate his "Logan's Run" movie (which was set to be his next project) but hopefully NOT "X-Men 3". This sounds good to me! Bring it on! Oh yeah... and film it in AMERICA (the studio favors Australia... WTF!? Supes is an American icon!).
From: Ross Entered on: July 19, 2004 11:27 AM
That's what McG (who sucks donkey dick) said, and is supposedly why he quit as the previous director. He insisted that Superman had to be filmed in NYC. Which in my opinion is dumb - SPIDER-MAN is a New York superhero, as are a bunch of Marvel heroes - Stan Lee set them in NYC on purpose to distinguish them from the DC comics characters who all lived in fictional cities! Superman is obviously from Metropolis, which could be any city, or a combination of many cities onscreen. Granted, he is from the USA, that's true - but if he's from a fictional US city, then why does it have to be filmed in the US?
From: John Entered on: July 19, 2004 11:43 AM
I don't care where it's filmed, Singer is a great choice. I would like to see Supes on the big screen again. Hopefully this won't fornicate X-men 3. I read Supes is going to have a $200 million budget, this seems sufficient for Singer to make a sweet movie. The only other thing is who are they going to cast for the role of Superman? I hope the go for a realitive unknown like they did for the first.
From: Ross Entered on: July 19, 2004 9:34 PM
Yeah X3 is fooked:     http://www.superherohype.com/superman/index.php?id= 1745
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 19, 2004 10:25 PM
That's fooked up about X3. Bring in Joel Shitmacher!     Hey! We get the CATWOMAN movie cards in tomorrow! Doesn't that open this weekend?
From: Swerb Entered on: July 20, 2004 12:08 PM
Yes, Catwoman opens Friday. I'm seeing it Wednesday. To further rub salt in the wound, I have to drive to Detroit to see the press screening. On the positive side, I'm seeing Spider-Man 2 on IMAX Thursday morning, which should be sweet.     That's a bummer about X3, but I think the powers that be should get on the phone with Alex Proyas (his direction was the best thing about I Robot). Or what's Darren Aronofsky working on these days? There are some good possibilities out there, as long as they don't get Shitmacher or McG or Roland Emmerich or an equivalent hack to handle it...
From: Ross Entered on: July 20, 2004 1:03 PM
That's the thing, dude - they do not have that kind of foresight at WB. They have been talking all music-video and pop culture crap filmmakers for years over there. Michael Bay was the frontrunner for Superman after McG quit, I shit you not. I don't think even Singer's presence will save the movie; I'm banking on the beginning of the end of his reputation.     Swerb, my condolences on your inevitable shitty experience with Scatwoman.     Also, I finally watched Man on Fire. Bone, I happen to agree with you this time: that movie was pretty darned good. I actually thought Tony Scott's direction was pretty interesting, and Denzel is consistently good. Most importantly, you were right about it being "The Punisher done right".
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 20, 2004 2:55 PM
I guess now Johnny-Bells will finally rent "Man on Fire" now that the Zilla-Bone-Ross trifecta have all given it thumbs.
From: BigFatty Entered on: June 12, 2007 9:08 AM
Rotten Tomatoes got their Tomato-meter out and made their ranked list of all comic book movies ever made - based on critics and reviewer scores (on what I could gather at a quick glance).  They listed 94 for in all - Son of the Mask being the worst and Fantastic Four coming in at 79 (Was it really THAT bad??) Here is the link: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/features/special/2007/comic/
From: Ross Entered on: October 4, 2008 9:50 PM
John said:   Bert- I've seen Daredevil a couple of times since I've had it and I don't remember noticing his hairdo sticking out. I'll look for it next time. I still think the costume is pretty fuckin' sweet. I just came across this, to prove my point: Hairdo!  I rest my case. Anyway, according to this, they could be rebooting the franchise, which would, by default, be a good thing.
From: The Bone Entered on: October 4, 2008 10:36 PM
Wow, only 5 yrs after the original conversation! I'm impressed.
From: Ross Entered on: October 4, 2008 10:41 PM
A testament to my power of memory.  :)  I recalled you and Roche saying that that extremely turdy costume was somehow sweet, and the comment stuck with me.  So when I saw this picture, this thread immediately jumped to mind.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: October 4, 2008 10:41 PM
Sorry Bert.  I don't see your point... just Elektra's tit wanting to fly out and greet me.
From: Ross Entered on: October 4, 2008 11:47 PM
The only point was that Assfleck's hairdo is poking out from under that crappy mask, which was in dispute.  It took me five long years, but I finally found the proof!
From: Jackzilla Entered on: October 5, 2008 1:14 AM
Nope.  Sorry.  I'm trying really hard but all I see is that tit.
From: Ross Entered on: March 9, 2009 1:20 PM
I just rediscovered this old-ass thread and thought it would be interesting to update our top ten superhero movies of all time.  Here, I think is my current list: Spider-Man 2 The Dark Knight Batman Begins Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut X-Men 2 Iron Man Spider-Man Superman I X-Men Dare I say... Watchmen?
From: NickNick Entered on: March 9, 2009 9:40 PM
I might get a verbal beatdown on this, but I would put Unbreakable in the top ten.  I think I'd also throw the original Michael Keaton/Jack Nichleson Batman in their as well. And that, unfortunately, would probably knock out both X-Men movies.  Superman I and II have to stay for pure nostalgia reasons, as campy as the FX are now.
From: Ross Entered on: March 10, 2009 7:15 AM
I wouldn't argue those choices much, NickNick... those are both great, and above I even mentioned that I loved Unbreakable and would put it in my list.  The reason I didn't put it in here is probably because although it's a superhero movie, it's not one based on a comic book.  I didn't make that distinction up front, I know, but that's probably my reasoning.