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Entered on: November 22, 2006 12:00 AM by Ross
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Go ahead and TRY to tell me this movie isn't going to be mind-blowingly fan-fucking-tastic.

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From: Eric Entered on: November 22, 2006 8:29 AM

I don't understand, so spiderman has an evil twin now?  That sounds fun. 

I'll get excited when they let Jerry Bruckheimer produce the movie.  It also need a better director.  I was thinking Michael Bay.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: November 22, 2006 11:55 AM
Don't forget spider nipples.  We definitely need spider nipples added to the spider-suit.  And James Franco needs more screen time to rant about "the bug."  Add in a gratuitous shot of Aunt May in a thong (that one's for Johnny Bells) and we'll have a movie!
From: Ross Entered on: November 22, 2006 3:29 PM
Yes Eric, that's right, a twin.  Oh!  I think I think Armageddon is on TNT now!  Run along...

From: Ross Entered on: November 24, 2006 12:20 PM

Check it out!  From the Spider-Man 2 TV show last night, has some new clips including a brief shot of Venom:

From: The Bone Entered on: November 24, 2006 2:20 PM
I hear Aquaman with Vincent Chase is even better.
From: Swerb Entered on: April 20, 2007 6:05 PM

Well, I'm seeing"Spider-Man 3" next Tuesday... a full report is, of course, forthcoming...

And yes, fuck me up a rope, etc.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: April 21, 2007 7:34 AM
From: Swerb Entered on: April 23, 2007 10:29 PM
Tide yourself over until Spider-Man with a hilarious fuckin' movie , which gets the Swerb stamp of approval . Everyone must see this!
From: Jackzilla Entered on: April 24, 2007 12:47 AM

Swerb - It's that time of year when I pester you for free PR again!  Yes, that's right...


Any chance of a little blurb in the Press?  :)

From: Swerb Entered on: April 24, 2007 5:43 AM
Zilla - yup, definitely. E-mail all your info to me at and put something interesting in the subject line so it doesn't get lost amongst the massive influx of bullshit correspondence I get... keep it clean, of course, or I'll never get it. Laughing
From: Ross Entered on: April 24, 2007 8:37 AM
I still need to see Grindhouse!  Now you're telling me I have to see Hot Fuzz too?  Okay, well, I know it's supposed to be good.  Maybe if I haven't done my duty by the time I make it to GR for Fatty's shindig, I can catch a showing of one or both.
From: Radmobile Entered on: April 25, 2007 9:52 AM
I saw "Hot Fuzz" with Wonder last night.  The previews didn't tell me much so I had my doubts about it, but by the end of the movie I was laughing my arse off.
From: BigFatty Entered on: April 25, 2007 10:52 AM
Wasn't Hot Fuzz one of your nickname canidates after White Chocolate?
From: Jackzilla Entered on: April 25, 2007 2:04 PM
BigFatty said:
Wasn't Hot Fuzz one of your nickname canidates after White Chocolate?

From: Radmobile Entered on: April 25, 2007 2:49 PM
It wasn't but I'll keep it in mind for Halo 3.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: May 15, 2007 1:57 PM
Free Comic Book Day pics!

From: Radmobile Entered on: May 15, 2007 2:18 PM
Good Lord! Who is that arsehurl in the Captain America suit?  What's up with that compact shield?
From: Ross Entered on: May 15, 2007 4:24 PM

Is it possible that Rad beats Fatty in a Captain America stank-off competition?  You decide:



From: Radmobile Entered on: March 7, 2008 12:19 PM

Well, this year I'll be bringing a new brand of justice to free comic day.... Thor style.  My cotume came in yesterday and the hammer apperently is here today.  The helmet is actually a lot cooler than I expected it to be.  It fits a lot better than the Captain A. headpiece.  I'll get some pictures up eventually of my trial run with the costume, but for now I'll just give links to the sites I ordered them from.  I haven't seen the hammer in person yet.  I'm hoping it's a little better proportioned than the Captain's shield was.

From: NickNick Entered on: March 7, 2008 12:40 PM

Rad.  You can only be Thor if constantly tell people about your mighty hammer Mjolnir.  And you have to pronounce it right.  Maybe you should reference a fishing trip where you caught the mighty Jormungandr with your line and had to battle the great beast back into the depths.

And how about growing a beard for the costume.  You can do it.... you would just have to fill in the lighter patches.

From: Ross Entered on: March 7, 2008 12:55 PM

By Odin's beard, you are truly going all-out, Rad.

Is the hammer inflatable?

From: Radmobile Entered on: March 7, 2008 12:59 PM

I want to try growing a beard.  We'll see how successfull I am though.  Garden gnomes tend to have difficulty in this regard.

I think it just a solid (more or less) plastic type of deal for the hammer.  I'll investigate and report back once I've seen it in person.

From: NickNick Entered on: March 7, 2008 1:48 PM

As long as you can throw it at some unsuspecting victim without causing any unnecessary bodily harm, the hammer should be fine.

It's looking more and more like I'm not going to be contributing an issue to this years' festivities.  Time has been nonexistant in the Myers household and I've had to put it on hold for a while for fear that I might rip the pages up in frustration. 

Rad, I'm guessing the helmet comes with the flowing golden hair that we've all come to know and love?

From: Radmobile Entered on: March 7, 2008 1:53 PM

Sadly no.  I'll have to grow out my hair or invest in a wig.  I don't imagine I have time to get quite the same flowing locks.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 7, 2008 2:05 PM

Thor Thor blah blah blah... Tell me more about the new Supergirl costume, Rad!  Laughing


From: Radmobile Entered on: March 7, 2008 2:23 PM

Oh nobody wants to hear about a cute girl in a Supergirl costume....what?  They do? Oh, well here's what it looks like.  That one hasn't gotten here yet.  I definitely think it's an upgrade from the old one though.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 7, 2008 2:33 PM



From: Radmobile Entered on: March 7, 2008 2:35 PM

Yes the S-shield is pretty cool.....what? Isn't that what we were talking about?

From: BigFatty Entered on: March 7, 2008 2:46 PM

According to Garden Gnome lore, you should be able to grow a 2 foot long beard in about six hours.  The golden locks might take a tad longer... and be white.

But more importantly.......

Dude - what's your sister going to wear?!!!! Wink


From: Bunky Entered on: March 7, 2008 2:48 PM

All it took was a garden gnome to bring Fatty back! Or maybe it was the S-shield...

What other returning or new characters can we be expecting this year?

From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 7, 2008 2:53 PM
BigFatty said:

According to Garden Gnome lore...

Garden Gnome Lore.  That was one of your college courses in France wasn't it?  That education was a sound investment!  Knowledge is power!

From: NickNick Entered on: March 7, 2008 2:54 PM

Josh.  I will do my best to avert my eyes from the S shield at all times.... at least while you're paying attention.  I think your sister should be Kitty Pride.  I'll come as The Blob.

From: BigFatty Entered on: March 7, 2008 3:35 PM

Rad should dump his gay Thor costume and come with his sister as the Wonder Twins.  All you need is two purple spandex jumpsuits (borrow from Jack's Prince Wardrobe Collection hidden in the basement closet - yes I found them Jack!).  Rad as Zan is slightly less gay than Thor.

Speaking of the Wonder Twins (and at this point we have to completely forget the above paragraph because then this becomes SICK and WRONG!!!

Did you remember the Family Guy where Peter is a Wonder Twin.  Jayna turns into a Eagle and flys away.  Peter takes the form of.....  Jayna's tampon, and hops into her purse.  OMG!  I was laughing so hard at that!  I still am!


From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 7, 2008 4:27 PM

The Wonder Twins!


From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 8, 2008 7:09 AM



From: NickNick Entered on: March 10, 2008 6:15 AM

Wow.  Quiet weekend on Jackassery.  Does this mean that Ross and Heather had their 80's movie night?  That Zilla finally started watching the critically acclaimed Earth 2 series?  That Bunky and Bone, or Bunky and Fatty hook-up finally happened?

From: Radmobile Entered on: March 10, 2008 7:13 AM

We tried out the "Lost" viedeo game at Jack's house.  Apparently the game should have been called "Collect coconuts for currency and hide in the banyan trees from the smoke monster".  I would guess we got close to halfway through the game and called it a show.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 10, 2008 7:34 AM

Fuck Lost the videogame!  There was no Shannon laying out on the beach either!  Yell

From: NickNick Entered on: March 10, 2008 8:49 AM

They really blew an opportunity there.  I wonder if they had to be really careful of content so as not to throw off anything with the continuity of the show.  Speaking of which, Jack, I've made up my mind.  I would like you to stuff my box.... full of the "Lost" episodes.

From: Bunky Entered on: March 10, 2008 9:52 AM

Nick Nick, first off, I don't hook up with guys who only meet with Congressional Delegates, and Fatty was busy....

Second of all, I was too busy kickin ass on Rock Band to be on Jackassery! I am fairly confident my band can take Zilla's Band. I believe it is time to throw down the challenge!

I did get a sweet picture of Rad sent to me on my XBOX in his Thor costume. He didn't answer me when I asked him if he had his pants off in the picture he sent to Zilla...Rad, I hope it was you playing when I sent that message....

Zilla, really? You blew us off Sunday for Coconuts? F the Zilla!!!

From: BigFatty Entered on: March 10, 2008 10:52 AM

Throw it down!!!!  I want a Battle of the Bands!!!  Set it up!

From: Radmobile Entered on: March 10, 2008 10:53 AM

Zilla played more Lost on Sunday??  He hadn't had enough of the banyan trees apparently.

It was me playing when I got that message by the way.  I was sitting on Jack's couch so he got to read it too.  For the record I was wearing pants in the photo.  They just weren't fitting for the costume, hence the disclaimer that came with the photo. 

As for the Rock-off, I think Bananagins had better sit this one out to keep it competitive for the rest of y'all.  But if anyone wants to test our mettle, just say the word and we'll try to arrange something.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 10, 2008 11:09 AM

There was no Lost playing for me on Sunday; I had my fill on Saturday!  I didn't play at all on Sunday actually.  Saturday night was all about Rock Band -- Sorry Live friends!  I'll probably be on tonight though...

From: Bunky Entered on: March 10, 2008 11:13 AM

Zilla was swinging from coconuts when I got on on Sunday... We had a busy weekend, so I did not play much Halo...

Rad, I was kidding about the pants. I could see them. You never reply to my messages, so sometimes I think you may mistake my humor for some bizarre Dateline behavior... I did crank the chair up when I opened your photo though....Is that wrong?

Back to the rock off... If Zilla can lay off the coconuts, I am ready. I will get my band together whenever I hear the call....

From: Bunky Entered on: March 10, 2008 11:15 AM

I stand corrected, it was Saturday when he was swinging from the coconuts.... F the Zilla anyway!

From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 10, 2008 11:39 AM

So how do we do a rock off with Rock Band?  Whore Kneez or Jackaphony may take part!

From: BigFatty Entered on: March 10, 2008 4:12 PM

I can't believe that Rock Band does not have a Battle Mode!  WTF!!!  Everyone knows that once you become bad-ass, you'll want to show off how you can ROCK!!  I can even see how it works on Live.  You create a competition, select the number of bands participating, number of songs to play, select songs.  Then each takes a turn with the computer grading the performances.  The funny thing would be - the band(s) not performing would have to sit in the audience and see/ hear the performance.  Talk about trash talking opportunites!

From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 10, 2008 4:24 PM

There's supposedly a patch coming for Rock Band that extends the Live capabilities.  The thing is no computer can calculate how sweet I am on the drums playing "Dani California" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers.  I'm rockin, tapping the drumsticks, funkin up the skins... puttin on a show!

From: Bunky Entered on: March 10, 2008 4:45 PM

Zilla, be honest, did you preorder the official Rock Band (tm) light show with fog machine? It is supposed to be synced to the music...

From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 10, 2008 5:29 PM


From: Bunky Entered on: March 10, 2008 5:44 PM

I just received your package. Thanks! My husband will be grateful as well!

From: Radmobile Entered on: April 14, 2008 10:26 AM

So this week's Rock Band DLC is pretty sweet if you ask me. 

This week's DLC for $1.99 per song (160 Microsoft Points) or these songs can also be bought in a 3-song Classic Rock pack for $5.49 (440 Microsoft points).

"Call Me" by Blondie (master)

"Simple Man" by Lynyrd Skynyrd (master)

"Message in Bottle" by the Police (master)

What do you think Jack?  Shall we work our mojo?

From: Bunky Entered on: April 14, 2008 11:19 AM

I will be downloading those later today! Tomorrow will be the new Halo maps! Are you in Rad?

I drive an average of 1,000 miles a week for work right now. I refuse to listen to the radio, and my work car does not have satellite radio Frown

As I was listening to my Ipod driving home Saturday, I was actually making my own little Rock Band Wish List. After hearing a song, I would think, "oh, that would be sweet on Rock Band." There is not a whole lot of options for fun when you are driving 5 hours alone in a minivan... Having truckers honk at you only works for awhile...

I would love to have some older Dashboard Confessional for the singing factor, and some Incubus S.C.I.E.N.C.E. for the sweet bass lines.


From: Radmobile Entered on: April 14, 2008 11:41 AM

Yeah, I'm sure Annie would love some Incubus DLC. 

As for Halo maps, I don't foresee being able to play Tuesday night, but maybe another night this week.

From: Bunky Entered on: April 14, 2008 11:47 AM

Are you teasing us with a future Halo date Rad? It will be more fun for us if we can learn the new maps and weapons layout before you get on anyhowSmile 

Our new favorite thing is sending Creeko game invites and having him ignore us. His couch must be really comfortable...

From: Radmobile Entered on: April 14, 2008 11:59 AM

Yeah, I know I'm a Halo tease.  I just have a hard time predicting when I'll be both available  and in the mood to play Halo.  More often than not I prefer to play single player games and relax.  Once in a while though, the Rad Gnome wants to come out and cause mishief.

From: BigFatty Entered on: April 14, 2008 12:25 PM

Fatty has to admit..... there was a bit of excitement stirring when I was watching movies through the 360 and I saw Bunky log in.

It kinda felt like being Fievel from American Tail (Which is a porn movie I'd like to make):

Somewhere out there,
in the TV light,
someone's thinking of me and sending me an invite.

Somewhere out there,
someone's saying a swear,
that we'll find one another in that big Halo Map out there.

And even though I know how very far apart we are,
it helps to think we might be logging in to Xbox Live to spar.

And when the gun-fire starts to scream as it flies by,
it helps to think we're on the same team shooting the same bad guy!

Together: Somewhere out there,
if Master Chief can see us through,
then we'll kill one another, somewhere out there,
out where I'll diddle you.

From: NickNick Entered on: April 14, 2008 12:58 PM

Fatty!!  Pure genius!!  Bravo!

Ohhh, and I love it when Rad teases my chocolate Halo.

From: Bunky Entered on: April 14, 2008 2:06 PM
I am not gonna lie, I did get a bit herny when Zilla mentioned you were in Spain visiting Creeko. I thought I was going to be able to work out some tension on Live with the Full Fatty treatment.Even Bells was gaming that weekend. We would have had to be on different teams so I could spank you when you dropped and whisper sweet nothings into your headset as you lay waiting to respawn. Way to deflate the funbags Fatty!
From: Creeko Entered on: April 14, 2008 2:40 PM

Can't understand why you keep sending me invitations to play. I keep sayin' I ain't got Gold nor do I plan on droppin 60 € to have Zilla cackle in my ear and get diddled by Bunky. I have Halo 3 since X-mas and I havent even played it more than an hour. Sadly, Ive played Viva Piñata more than Halo. I just picked up Gears because it was on sale for 30 €. So far I like it but I get bored with shooters easily. I'm more of a racer fan or adventrue guy.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: April 14, 2008 2:55 PM

Creeko - You get bored with shooters because you aren't playing multiplayer with us!   I know you and Rad may disagree with me, but I just can't play boring single-player games after being spoiled with System Link and Live action.  Nothing beats playing with real people, people!  Having a 360 and not playing on Live is like having a sweet car that you keep stored in the garage and don't drive, preferring to fidgit with the radio instead!

Rad - Count me in on the Rock Band mojo!

From: Bunky Entered on: April 14, 2008 9:47 PM

Zilla, we've got it all wrong! What were we thinking getting a 360 and LIVE? We have been wasting money all this time buying games and playing them online with other people, talking a bunch of trash, and having such fun! What assholes we must be!

I guess I will just start playing games by myself and watching videos. It's been sweet kids. Please watch for my name popping up online. We all know single player games and videos is what the fucking XBOX 360 was designed for! I'm glad I found this out before I bought the new Halo maps and Rock Band songs! In fact, I am going to cancel my internet right now and just use my Blackberry for email and JA!

I hope GameStop will let me return the 3 Microsoft point packs I bought for my nephews today so they could download the new Halo maps tomorrow.

Jack, whatever you and Rad do, don't get the Rock Band mojo on over LIVE. That would be full gay. In fact, you should both probably play the new songs alone and then talk about how sweet it was on here.

Creeko, Jack and I both have free 48 hour trial codes we can give for LIVE. You should have one in your Halo game. I definetly won't need it now since you have pointed out what a Fuck Tard I am for engaging in such online shenanigans. You should check out Gears online if you are willing to stoop to our level. The campaign was not that sweet.

As for you not appreciating my brand of diddling skills, I now better understand a photo you previously posted in Jacks honor. From this photo and the Dumpster Sluts post, UNO may be more of your brand for online gaming.... I hear there is adventure waiting to happen. You will have to invest in an online camera for $19.99 though.


From: Ross Entered on: April 14, 2008 7:00 PM

I think you guys (Jack and Bunky) are going a bit off the deep end.  It's a nonsensical argument to argue about single player vs online play - they're two totally different beasts and both have their place.  I know Jack has never fully understood this argument when I've made it, but perhaps Bunky can.

I don't think I'll ever get tired of story based games - but that doesn't mean that they're better than multiplayer ones or vice-versa, they're just different.  So it's no good to say that playing against real people is better than a "boring single player game" because the point of the single player games aren't trying to compete with multiplayer ones in that respect.  They're telling a story and engaging us in it, and for those of us that like that kind of thing, multiplayer games don't have anything to offer.  So sometimes I agree with Rad that I'd rather play that kind of game, and sometimes it's also hard to argue with Creeko when he says the Jackophony isn't what he's looking for every night.  But then there are times, of course, that a good diddling is just what the doctor ordered.

From: Bunky Entered on: April 14, 2008 9:46 PM

Online play versus single player is purely a matter of preference. I am fairly new to the gaming world and have no interest in playing a single player game, nor do I own any.

My nephews and niece are all gaming junkies. System linking at every family holiday is how I became a XBOX junkie. They finally wore my down and lured me into their dark world on Easter of 2006. By September of 2006 I purchased XBOX Live for a regular XBOX I acquired by accident, and upgraded to 360 the following Christmas (actually I bought myself one in the beginning of December and did not know my husband had bought one for Christmas. He made me wait until Christmas to open it once I figured it out).

I originally started playing LIVE casually with the Chitlins for a half hour here and there when I couldn't sleep. I had a high stress job and brought a lot of work home. I had terrible insomnia and would wake up thinking about work in the middle of the night and get on my computer and work on reports. I found when I played a few rounds before bed, I went to sleep not thinking about work, and slept quite well. Anyhow, my self-imposed sleep therapy is now an addiction!

The point to this ramble is, video game choice is a matter of preference. I don't play because I enjoy the storyline. It has been a great way for me to keep in touch with the Chitlins and our friends out of town. In fact when I first started playing online, I wouldn't play with anyone I didn't know. So much for that!

I enjoy the social part of the gaming. I personally find playing a video game alone boring. I am also competitive by nature (even for sucking most of the time online), so I enjoy the rivalry.

The 360 was actually designed for online gamer, whether it be multiplayer or co-op. That is why their exclusive games are multiplayer based, and not single player focused. In fact, almost all multi-platform developers have made the XBOX 360 their primary platform.

The fact that you, Rad, and Creeko find single player games engaging is not a bad thing. But I would argue that you three are the minority out there, and that the majority of gamers prefer co-op and mulitplayer gaming to single player gaming.

Yes, Jack and I are sarcastic at times, but we have not gone off the deep end. I do agree with Jack though on his point regarding the 360.

Why have a 360 if you can't enjoy the sweetness of it? Isn't that why you bought it in the first place? Otherwise you could just keep your Super Nintendo, play Duck Hunt, Donkey Kong, and Mario, and buy games dirt cheap off EBAY. You save money and you aren't missing anything!

From: Radmobile Entered on: April 15, 2008 7:46 AM

Oh boy, it sounds like Bunky hasn't played a current gen single player game.  Surely there's a little more depth to the single player experience these days than Duck Hunt has to offer.  I can accept that you like the xbox live "shanigans" exclusively, but saying we're in the minority for liking the single player is pretty bold.  I'm not sure of the numbers but it seems like most of the games that are made, are primarily single player in nature.  Why would they make so many games like that if we were a minority?

From: Ross Entered on: April 15, 2008 8:31 AM

I agree that if you don't use the 360's online capabilities (*cough* Bells), then you are missing out.  But to say that someone who enjoys the story side of a game is in the minority is complete hogwash.  As Bone would say, you don't know what you're talking about, negro.

The gaming industry is very much focused on creating story-based games, and that's still the driver.  My evidence is that the vast majority of games that you play as multiplayer are single player games first.  They are not strictly multiplayer games.  Very few of those types of games exist, and the ones that do exist tend to suck. Furthermore, read any serious gaming site and see what their opinion is.  They are still focused on the story element of games, and generally frown upon multiplayer-only games.  The fact that Bioshock, a single player only game, won many Game of the Year honors, should tell you something.

While multiplayer gaming will continue to grow and possibly displace single player gaming to some extent (which I wouldn't argue is necessarily a bad thing), there will always be a market for the games that you find boring. 

It's like the difference between reading a book and going to a party.  People who party all the time and aren't big readers will be baffled by someone's choice to stay home and read one night.  Not much we can do to convince you.  But don't begrudge us our books, heathens!

From: Bunky Entered on: April 15, 2008 9:40 AM

Ninja please. Let me clarify. In Halo, did I enjoy the storyline? Yes. Did I play it alone? Hell no. Myself, and a million others were online doing it co-op style bitches! When Gears came out, my nephews and I pulled and all nighter to beat the game.

The storyline is key to a good game indeed. I will not argue that. Most games now include online co-op mode because not everyone wants to play online alone. That was my point. As for Duck Hunt and such, I was just saying it seems like a waste of money to invest in a 360 and not spend the additional money on any of the *critically acclaimed single player games, LIVE, or any other features that make one buy a 360. I doubt Viva Pinata prompted many to spend that kind of money because of a kick ass storyline.

So the fact that Bioshock, a single player only game, won many awards, that should tell me something? So are you recommending I consult gaming critics before I make a purchase? Do you apply the same thinking to you movie purchases? Can I assume Brokeback Mountain is in your HD collection because of all it's awards, or did you dismiss the reviews because it was a co-op effort on top of the mountain?

Yes, there will be a niche market for the games that I find boring. However, Halo sales kicked ass over Bioshock, as I am sure Gears did too. Why? Because it offers both the storyline and the multiplayer/co-op feature which is more attractive and the new brand of gaming for the new generation of gamers!

I do enjoying reading a good book. When I want quiet, down time to myself, I find it very relaxing.

Rad never debates anything on here! I love it! I think feisty Rad makes me SUPER herny!

From: Ross Entered on: April 15, 2008 10:05 AM

So you are counting on public opinion (sales) as your metric for what makes a great game, then?  Reality TV consistently infuses the top ten national TV shows.  I guess those are the best shows, too.

Nobody said to consult game critics - but the fact that people who know games better than most considered a great game should tell you something, yes.  Game critics aren't hoity-toity brandy-sipping snobs - they're people like me who have played games all of their lives.

Furthermore, it's simply absurd for you to call single player games a niche market.  Your view of the gaming industry might approach accuracy in 5 or 10 years, but it does not reflect reality today.  For instance, most games do not include a co-op mode.  It's still fairly rare as far as that goes. 

I don't feel the need to respond to your non-sequiturs (Brokeback) or straw men (Viva Pinata) - though now you're sticking to this claim that you're all about the co-op mode, which is still a very recent development and very much a minority play type compared to solo mode.  I agree that it's a welcome addition, but it does change the experience in such a way that it can be a bit too much like multiplayer gaming, especially if you're looking for a solitary experience.

If you're able to understand that people might want down time to themselves (and that books aren't going anywhere) then you ought to be able to understand that single player gaming fulfills a very similar need in people and likewise is just as permanent.

From: Radmobile Entered on: April 15, 2008 10:11 AM

Well, no one is telling you what games to get.  We're just saying we shouldn't be judged for wanting to play single player games.

As for Halo 3's sales, that in part due to the hype machine.  Another thing that hurts single player games' sales is that a group of friends can all buy it together and just take turns playing through it, or rent it and play through it in a weekend. With Halo (or multiplayer goes in general) you need multiple copies to have much fun with it.  This doesn't mean people like multiplayer games more, it just means they have to keep the disc longer.

At the risk of contradicting the first sentence of this post I'd also like to add a responce to Jack's analogy about the sweet car.  Buying a sweet Xbox 360 and only ever playing 2 games on it seems like a gross waste of resources.  I want to try all 31 Flavors.  I go full Baskin-Robbins with it.

From: Bunky Entered on: April 15, 2008 12:02 PM

I agree with you Rad. Buying a XBOX and only playing 2 games on it is a waste. That was the Nintendo point I was making. If you are not really into the games or willing to invest in new games, that's okay, keep your old system and enjoy it. To drop the money on an XBOX and only buy a couple of games is crazy. At least with Gears and Halo, once you beat the campaign, you can still enjoy the LIVE aspect and map updates.

Single Player games are fine. You should play what you like. The XBOX 360 is a system that is designed towards the online gamer. You and Rad utulize both features of the 360, which makes perfect sense. You play the LIVE when you want, the single player, whatever. To drop the money on a 360 and play $19.99 Platinum Hits Viva Pinata does not make sense to me, not matter what arguements you throw my way.

I could give a shit about public opinion. I enjoy Halo because I enjoy Halo. I was stating that looking at sales, there is statistically significant data that more than supports XBOX 360 owners would rather play Halo 3 than Bioshock. In the first seven days after its release, Halo 3 scored a 300 million dollar profit for Microsoft.

With that said, I could also give a shit what critics or full time gamers think. The fact that they have been playing games all of there lives has no impact on whether or not I am going to like a game or not.

The only thing I currently watch on television is the Colbert Report, and I don't think I could name a reality television show.

I appreciate that you rank your lifetime gaming experience with that of critic, but it still does little to sway my opinion...

Really, you don't think single player games aren't a niche market? You're a smart guy Ross, look at the trends. Maybe today, right this very second, no. Look at the pipeline of games being developed, created and worked on TODAY as we sit here typing.

From a financial perspective alone, co-op and multi-player games make more sense for companies, the consumer feels like they are getting more, and everyone but single game players are happy.

Rad's point about multiplayer games was a good one. There have been 9 copies of Halo purchased by myself and the nephews/niece so we can all play online together. We all also have LIVE accounts and our own XBOX's. We all also own Gears. Most of us have Call of Duty 4 (even though I don't love it).

I wouldn't judge you Rad, you are too sweetSmile

Ross, don't hate the player, hate the game!

From: Bunky Entered on: April 15, 2008 11:55 AM

Top 10 Games by Unit Ending 2007

1. Halo 3 (Xbox 360, Microsoft) - 4.82 million
2. Wii Play w/remote (Wii, Nintendo) - 4.12 million
3. Call of Duty 4 (Xbox 360, Activision) - 3.04 million
4. Guitar Hero III: Legends Of Rock w/guitar (PlayStation 2,       Neversoft/Budcat/Activision) 2.72 million
5. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii, Nintendo) - 2.52 million
6. Pokemon Diamond (DS, Nintendo) - 2.48 million
7. Madden NFL 08 (PS2, Electronic Arts) - 1.90 million
8. Guitar Hero II w/guitar (PS2, Activision) - 1.89 million
9. Assassin's Creed (Xbox 360, Ubisoft) - 1.87 million
10. Mario Party 8 (Wii, Nintendo) - 1.82 million

From: Jackzilla Entered on: April 15, 2008 2:25 PM

Wow.  There's a lot of fucking text up in here, ninjas!

Nothing against solo games (or reading a book), but when the invites start flying (or you can hear the kids playing outside), get on Live (or put your book down and go outside and play!).

Rad - Good point on playing just 2 or 3 games.  Time is a big factor for me.  I'd love to play more games otherwise.  But all this doesn't excuse Creeko for not playing on Live ever.  Keeping the car analogy going:  Sure Rad, you're driving all over town and seeing lots of sites while I'm still driving down the same road.  But my car's top is down and girls are in the backseat with their shirts off!  Meanwhile, Creeko?  He's still fiddling with the radio in the garage!  He's gotta take that thing out on the road!  And don't tell me you can't afford gas! (i.e. Live gold account).

From: BigFatty Entered on: April 15, 2008 3:16 PM

C'mon - there is a lot more to Creeko's not going on Live.  First, there is the 6 hour time difference which limits the time he would play with everyone in the US.  Second, his Spanish lifestyle is certainly different than yours.  More free time is spent engaged with meals and sharing them with family (extended) than Americans do in general.  Third, his experiences reflect this reality....  XBOX live is not always fun.  Especially for new players.  How fun is it going up against a 12 year old cocksucker that knows all the spawn points and camps there to snipe you?

So, it sure might be a blast to play online with your friends, but when you aren't available when your friends are, then it is a wasted expense.  Don't go saying Bullshit, I see Creeko online all the time.   He is not playing the XBOX so much as using it as a media player.  If you see his name, he is most likely watching some shows with his wife and daughter.

I have the same reasoning for not even buying one.  I don't even use my 300 Gig box full of games.  I used it once in a year.  We could not meet up online much for me to enjoy the Live membership, so why drop that chunk of change?  There is no way that I'll be going online at 1,2, or 3 in the morning on a work night so we can hook up.  The weekends is better, but your prime time is when I am helping with the baby, and eating dinner.  Plus, I like to spend a little time relaxing with my wife.

So there is certainly more to living than XBOX Live.

Anyway...  what's this Viva Pinata??  Its Platnium???  I got to check this out!!

From: Bunky Entered on: April 15, 2008 3:24 PM
Protocol dictates you have to have a 360 to participate in this discussion.
From: Creeko Entered on: April 15, 2008 4:00 PM

I don't know what all the fuss is about. I got a XBOX and I'm gonna use it however the fuck I want! As a matter of fact I bet I'm getting more out of my box than the average cock sucker. I play games, I use it as a media player, I DL marketplace content and I ignore Bunky and Zilla on messenger. If anyone cares I have a Wii and a DS and I hardly play those either.

I appreciate Fatty stepping up on my behalf but the fact that I haven't said anything is that I find it absurd to have to explain my brand of video game justice. Bunk almost reminds me of a religous zealot from the church of Xbox. I'm glad reason has overshadowed the absurdness of claiming single player games to be some form of misuse of the system.

I'm gonna hold out until M$ gives up Live for free. Once Sony has something competitive I'm sure M$ will respond with Live promos for those who have not adapted to new technologies yet.

BTW, the only reason I have Viva Piñata (I have a 'ñ' on my keyboard suckers) is because it came in a bundle.

From: Bunky Entered on: April 15, 2008 4:26 PM
Creeko, I assumed you were born with a pair of balls and was wondering why Fatty was playing Mama to you.
From: Creeko Entered on: April 15, 2008 5:11 PM

The left hangs a little lower than the right, but they're right where they need to be.

From: Bunky Entered on: April 15, 2008 5:19 PM


From: Ross Entered on: April 15, 2008 6:06 PM

I think one thing that Fatty is hitting upon that I wasn't getting across very clearly is that when you play on your own, you play on your own terms.  So that means you can play exactly what you like, for as long as you like, and you are not beholden to anyone's whims but your own.  By contrast, when I play Halo 3 with you guys (which I do generally enjoy), you are gaming by committee, and must play the maps the leader picks and are at times stuck with unfair teams until enough people convince others to switch it up, and yes, sometimes there are chits invited who kick the shit out of you and you must suffer the smacktalk.  To some people, this is apparently always acceptable, but I reckon to Rad, Fatty, Creeko and I, we don't always prefer it as some others seem to. 

That said, I think that when I'm in the mood for the online jackholery, it's tremendous fun.  But I'm just not always up for it.

Please tell me that you guys can understand this.  This is also another reason why single player gaming will never go away, and will probably never even be displaced by multiplayer games.

From: Bunky Entered on: April 15, 2008 6:52 PM

I completely understand. I am not against single player games, even though I don't enjoy them. You and Rad utilize the personal and online features of the 360, which is what is was designed for.  You are enjoying all of it's features, and doing it on your own terms. I apologize if it seems I was attacking you personally.

I also understand the pain of being at the mercy of the leader. I f'ing hate Vahalla & Vahallilla and somehow always get stuck playing it! I do enjoy the banter of the closed custom maps, so even a swift ass kicking is still fun for me.

Microsoft announced in January that 10 million people now are on LIVE, so Creeko's hope of free LIVE probably isn't going to happen.

It would be fun if Creeko popped in every so often, just to get to know him on a more personal level. Rad doesn't play with us often, but when he does it is always enjoyable because you never know when he will be back!

Fatty, I doubt Creeko's life is any busier than the rest of ours. My daughter dances four nights a week and my son is in baseball and guitar lessons. I also have a hectic travel schedule with work, in addition to balancing a marriage and kids. I help out in my children's classroom each week and go to lunch most Sundays with extended family.

From: jeurge Entered on: April 16, 2008 9:39 PM

In defense of the Roche's, Bells in particular since nobody in their right mind would want to play Halo 3 on a team with me, we really can't access live with our current internet set-up as it is through an air card with Verizon wireless. And with Zilla right down the street, we can get on live as often as we need. Given the compulsive nature of the members of my household, if it were readily available nothing would get done around the house and the children might die from neglect if it were at our fingertips.

From: Bunky Entered on: April 17, 2008 2:09 PM

Jeurge, you are always welcome to be on my Halo 3 team. However, you will be subject to Jackophony, which is out of my control...

From: NickNick Entered on: April 17, 2008 2:17 PM

That would pertain to my household as well.  Which is a big reason why I haven't gone the 360 route. (Besides the money part of it)  If I did have the 360, I would almost certainly not allow myself access to live.  Otherwise, the wife and kids would wake up in the morning and find me passed out on the couch with a controller in hand and a headset, snoring happily to the sleep screen of my 360.

As far as the argument goes on the single player v. multi-player.  They are completely different animals as can be seen in the story content of said games.  Halo and gears are great games for diddling, but I would never actually play one of them by myself... and be engrossed in the story.  It needs to be a little bit more than a first person shooter or a racer in order to hold my interest.

But then again, I was always the kid that chose to read a book rather than go outside and play with the other kids.

From: Ross Entered on: April 17, 2008 2:51 PM
NickNick said:

Halo and gears are great games for diddling, but I would never actually play one of them by myself... and be engrossed in the story. It needs to be a little bit more than a first person shooter or a racer in order to hold my interest.

Then I think you haven't played the right shooters.  Bioshock is second to none in the story-based-game department. 

It would be one thing to say that you just plain don't like FPS's, but another to say that it couldn't theoretically hold your interest due to its game type - an indictment against the entire genre.  First person shooters are among the very best games in terms of story.

From: BigFatty Entered on: April 21, 2008 8:36 AM

So my dad informed me that he just bought a Playstation 3.  He went into Best Buy to buy a Blue Ray DVD player since the format wars have declared a winner.  The sales guy steered him to the Playstation 3 instead of a normal player.  I say it might make more sense, except for I am not sure on the quality of the Playstation's player.  My experience with the first edition PS2 was extremely lackluster due to the DVD player.  Anyway - you do seem to get more bang for the buck with a PS3.  Anyone else thinking about going this route?  Does the proximity to a PS3 automatically make your 360 aquire the 'ring of death'??


From: Ross Entered on: April 21, 2008 12:41 PM

If I was gung-ho to get a bluray player, I would definitely consider it.  I still like the crop of 360 titles better than PS3, but there are a few PS3 games I'd definitely like to play.  But for movies, I get them in HD via... other... means, so I'm not big into physical disc media.  So it's not a major selling point for me.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: April 21, 2008 12:45 PM

Fatty - Is your dad aware that Viva Pinata is an Xbox exclusive title?

From: Radmobile Entered on: April 21, 2008 2:49 PM

Speaking of other means, avi's now play on the 360 after an update thorugh live.  It's kind of nice to watch stuff directly from the external hard drive plugged into the 360.  I imagine some of you have more stylish means of watching shows, but for me this means cutting out the middle man of transferring to the old xbox and then watching it.  I think it means I can watch stuff in HD easier since the old x-box didn't have the right cables.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: April 21, 2008 3:09 PM

That does sound pretty nifty and convenient, Rad.  I'll have to "give it a go" sometime!

From: BigFatty Entered on: April 21, 2008 3:09 PM

Ah the other means..... I know what you mean.  I have been enjoying my shows in flip-art form.  Whats this you ask??  Well my techless friends, I am surprised you 'Internet Guys' don't know about this fancy stuff.

I like to draw my shows in a flip-book and flip the pages to watch the show.  I just finished doing CSI: Miami.  Man, what a riveting show.  I also like doing BSG.  Drawing the lasers and explosions are cool.  Plus, I like drawing boobies on the hot Cylon stick figures.


From: Bunky Entered on: April 21, 2008 3:22 PM
Zilla, don't be silly, the Heiss family doesn't purchase games for their $500 DVD players. Anything not included in the bundle is an after market upgrade and not worth the added expense.
From: Ross Entered on: April 21, 2008 5:15 PM

Well, it's good the Xbox is now in the 20th century, but for HD content, the format of choice is .MKV, which it cannot play.  So you still need to have a PC hooked up to be a digital pimp.

From: Bunky Entered on: April 21, 2008 5:42 PM
Ross said digital pimp... HA HA HA!
From: Creeko Entered on: August 18, 2008 12:51 PM

Free XBL for all! As I said, when it's free, I'll see you bitches on Live. Social wheels are in motion, now Sony just needs to pick up the slack so M$ can play their trump card. I've been hearing more and more chatter about free XBL, so I'm gonna keep my hopes up.

From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 18, 2008 3:32 PM

Creeko - I still say buying a 360 and not paying for Live is like buying a car and not paying for gas.

Free Live would be great, and may happen eventually, but I can't imagine M$ doing it a until the competition offers equal service for free (and not a moment before).  I think they're more interested in keeping the cost of the console down.

From: Bunky Entered on: August 18, 2008 4:48 PM

Hey Creeko, if you pay for XBOX Live, you can get sweet random messages all the time like this one I got yesterday:

So I heard ur ankles r havin a party, how about we invite your pants down???


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