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Entered on: July 9, 2008 7:00 AM by RobotSpider

(huh hhhuhhh  hhhh hhh uuuuhhhh, he said 'anal')

As a relative new-comer to JackAssery, I sometimes struggle with references to people and relationships since I don't really know how everyone knows everyone else.  At the same time, I thought it would be interesting to see where the social lines converge, as well as what the power structure looks like in the event I need to execute a hostile takeover. 

Here's what I'm proposing; a JackAssery family tree.  This would also include the usual gaming/xbox people in the event they don't also crossover to JA.  So here's what I need from you all: your name, any aliases, and your direct 'upstream' associations (sorry for invoking a MLM term).

Obviously, you don't need to include everyone you know, but if you know two people equally, just add another entry.  Use your JA logon name as your main entry name and put the aliases in parenthesis.

For example:

I know Ross through John, and don't really have any aliases, but for the sake of example:

RobotSpider(Rob, Robot, Spider) --> Swerb (John) --> Ross (Bert, etc. etc.)

I'm planning to put together sort of an org-chart, but I wouldn't rule out a Flash-based game or animation down the road.  BTW, there's extra bonus points if you can link all the way back to Kevin Bacon... Mmmm, bacon...

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From: Radmobile Entered on: July 9, 2008 7:51 AM

Well, I'm not sure how you want this formatted but....

I'm Josh (Rad/Radmobile).  NickNick is my cousin on my father's side. 

I met Jack from going to the comic store a lot as a child, but I started playing frequent Halo 1 LAN parties at his house because Nick brought me along one time.  This is how I was introduced to Johnybells and Fatty.

Ross and Swerb I met only a few times at the LAN parties initially but I'm a bit more familiar with them now.

And in case I ever mention Annie in a post, I'm referring to my girlfriend/fiance.  Her xbox gamertag is Anneburgler, but she doesn't play online a ton these days so she's just a sliver account.


 
From: NickNick Entered on: July 9, 2008 7:51 AM

Hmmm let's try this out.

NickNick (Nick, whatever name I pull out of my ass at the time of creating the character)---> Josh (cousin), Jack---> Johnnybells, Jeurge, Ross, Bone, Fatty, Bunky, Swerb, and anyone else.


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 9, 2008 10:50 AM

What a sweet idea!  I especially like the part where you do all the work, Spider!

Okay, I'm gonna give this a try.  Thinking about it I think I have the most personal connections -- which not only makes diagraming hard, but may also confirm any notion I may have of my importance in the Grand Scheme Of Things.

Let's go!

Jackzilla (Jack, Zilla, Bubba <nickname by wife>) --> NickNick (Nick), Radmobile (Rad, Radmostank, White Chocolate) --> WonderBoy (Matt, WonderOx <sometimes on Live, no JA account), Natron (Nate <sometimes on Live, no JA account).

Jackzilla --> EDGE (Rob, Princess <is on Live, no JA account).

Jackzilla -- > Jenettie (Angenette, Angie, Zillaswife, Boo <my husbandy nickname for her>) --> BigFatty (Will, Willy, Big Willie Ho, Bill Williams, Fatness, FatStation), JohnnyBells (John, Roche, Johnny), Jeurge (Melissa, Mrs. Bells) --> Bert (Ross), Swerb (John, Serba, Slurp, Dr. Swerbius), Creeko (member of the Shitsack Bros), The Bone (Tony)

Jackzilla -- ... --> Swerb --> RobotSpider

Jackzilla ---- (through Live)----> Bunky (Kendrea,"Oh Yeah!"), Monkey T (Travis, "The T stands for whore"), Jay B (not on JA yet)

 

I think that's it...


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 11:09 AM

Bunky = Kendrea

XBOX LIVE: Met Zilla and Edge after playing with Supplyguyz (Jack's brother in law on Angie's side). I believe the first thing Jack said to Monkey was "You suck so bad, my mouth hurts!" A friendship was born!

Surf Ninjas (Nathan), Jaderaide (Jade), Turtle Llama (Chase), XOMEGA (Max) are nieces/nephews on my husband's side. Jade and Max are brother and sister. There are a couple others, but they never play with us.

Monkey T (Travis) and his wife Amy were neighbors of my husband while he was in pharmacy school. They will be are neighbors again in a month when Travis moves to where I live for his pharmacy rotations. Travis introduced me to XBOX LIVE. Bastard!

Jay B (Jason, Dr. Bandy, usually just Jay B) also attended UOP in Stockton, CA and is a Pharm.D as well. His wife (also a pharmacist) worked with Travis at Walgreens and taught a pharmacy class at UOP. Jay B was a guest lecturer in one of my husband's classes.

GrandMasterKush is a friend of one of Travis's childhood friends from Orange County (Sucidal Ray). That's is not a typo, that is how he spells it.

Keggman is Travis' neighbor Bruce. His brother is Reaper Kegman (Brian) and his nephew is Ghostryder 1 (Stephen).


 
From: The Bone Entered on: July 9, 2008 11:13 AM

I don't know what the fuck is going on here but really like your real name Bunky - Kendrea is sexy as hell.


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 11:28 AM

I am still waiting for my photos...


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 9, 2008 11:59 AM

Bunky - I'm not sure about your formatting.  I think Spider's gonna want all that in the form of a question or something...

Bone - You should be on Live and hear Bunky whisper "oh yeeeeah!" in your ear when she kills you.  Bells calls it "full herny."


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 12:02 PM

Robot, I will leave the formatting up to you.

As for the hostile takeover, I recommend starting with Ross and a chicken sandwich. When you are done with the sandwich, send it my way so I can beat Jack down with it. "Oh yeeeeah!"


 
From: Ross Entered on: July 9, 2008 12:17 PM

I am going to work up a visio diagram for this.  Too bad I don't have a gliffy plugin for the site where we could work on it online...


 
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 9, 2008 12:18 PM
Jackzilla said:

Bunky - I'm not sure about your formatting.  I think Spider's gonna want all that in the form of a question or something...

Bone - You should be on Live and hear Bunky whisper "oh yeeeeah!" in your ear when she kills you.  Bells calls it "full herny."

It's ok, Jack, that's where the /Analyst part of my job title comes in.  I take the incoherent ramblings from users and turn it into datapoints.

On a good night, it's almost like Bunky kind of forgets where she is and that others are listening.  Sometimes she'll be givin' you the b'dness and you kind of feel like you should thank her and ask where to send the $4.99/minute...


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 12:24 PM

Oh no Robot. I wasn't not sure what you were looking for...

I may have to stock up on the Costco pack of chicken sandwiches...


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 9, 2008 12:39 PM

Spider - You are a bit of an ANALYST / THERAPIST, aren't you?  An ANALRAPIST, if you will...


 
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 9, 2008 1:55 PM

Ahhh... working on your BS in JA??  Shows good initiative.  Well the history of JA is pretty interesting.  Its orgins were discussed for a few years and Ross (the JA father) had a few website starts before he perfected JA.  You could say that ThirdWorldBeatDown was the springboard to JA.  This is were Ross decided to make a true effort in documenting our shinanigans.  Other reasons for its creation were Ross's own experimentation for other professional projects he was doing.  He can speak to that.  Here is a history of JA for another synopsis.

Being Fatty, I have a different interpetation to your instructions:

Will (Fatty, BigFatty, ShitStack brother, Chuck and variations, Willie, Williams)->John(Bells)->Ross, Bone

Me->Creeko (My brother)->Bone

Me->Angie (Jack's wife)->Jack

Me->Jack->NickNick (Nick), Radmobile (Rad, Radmostank, White Chocolate) --> WonderBoy (Matt, WonderOx <sometimes on Live, no JA account), Natron (Nate <sometimes on Live, no JA account)  This is the Lowell Group

Me->Ross->Swerb->Robo

Me->Jack->Bunky

Bells was the original uniting focal point, bringing together Ross, Fatty, Bone.  Bone and Creeko were friends outside of this (and Creeko is my brother).  Ross then introduced Swerb, but he became 'core' to the group (not JA) some years after the original introduction.  Ross and Swerb were friends independently of the group for some time.

The second major introduction was when Fatty and Zilla became friends through Zilla's wife.  Fatty introduced Jack to Bells. Bells/Fatty introduced Jack to the rest of the group.  JA was then formed.

Through Jack came the Lowell explosion.  This was largely due to Zilla and Fatty's original Xbox exploits (which was inspired by Ross).  Later on, the 360 lead Jack to Bunky and friends.

Man, I feel like we are building reference material.

 


 
From: Swerb Entered on: July 9, 2008 1:58 PM

OK... (deep breath)

Swerb --> Ross --> Bells --> Jeurge

Swerb --> Ross --> Fatty --> Creeko

Swerb --> Ross --> Fatty --> Zilla --> Radmobile --> NickNick

Swerb --> Ross --> Fatty --> Zilla --> Bunky

This is perhaps obvious (and maybe Robot deserves an apology): Everyone --> Swerb --> RobotSpider

Swerb --> met Oliver Stone --> who directed "JFK" --> starring Kevin Bacon


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 2:12 PM
Did you compliment Kevin on his Wild Things performance?
 
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 9, 2008 2:24 PM
Bunky said:

Oh no Robot. I wasn't not sure what you were looking for...

I may have to stock up on the Costco pack of chicken sandwiches...

No worries :) It's exactly what I was looking for.  Perhaps a little verbose, but it's much easier to filter what I don't need than make up what I don't have.

 

Smile


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 9, 2008 3:12 PM

For your amusement: The Kevin Bacon Game


 
From: Ross Entered on: July 9, 2008 6:43 PM

I began a tree, using Gliffy online.  If you sign up for the site, I can share the document and it can be further completed (Jack would be the next logical person to pick up from here):


 
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 10, 2008 12:37 AM

Hmmm... I would suggest one major change...  remove the last names.  People are turning to the internet for info on job candidates.

Shit - my employees did a search on me on Facebook, but wanting to remain secret, did not request access, but searched my contacts.  There they found my wife.  They then found her on a Hungarian site where her pictures were accessible to them.  The pics of me and my family were downloaded and shared.  It was nothing bad or embarassing, it was just slightly uncomfortable realizing I had so much easily accessible information.

But, with JA..... well, lets say I'd rather not be in a position were I had to explain some things at JOB interview.  IF I got the JOB interview.

Later, I did give one of my team access to Facebook.  I did not have any questionable photos on there.  Well, she was soon asking me about why I was leaning over a toilet in one photo ;)  I told her I had dropped my cell phone.

Careful what you put unto the internet.  JA has some history.... 5 years and counting.  There is plenty here to ruin career choices for everyone.


 
From: Radmobile Entered on: July 10, 2008 8:31 AM

To clarify the Wonder and Natron connection:

I was friends with Wonder's older brother throughout school (middle & high) who is my age.  Wonder who is a few years younger than us started hanging out with us more and more until somehow Wonder replaced his older brother as the closer friend of mine. 

Natron is a classmate/buddy of Wonder's so I was introduced to him that way. 


 
From: Ross Entered on: July 10, 2008 8:44 AM

Re: last names.  It's a picture.  It won't show up on a search engine if someone googles your name.  But point taken nonetheless. 

And personally, I have shown this site to all of my bosses over the years.  I believe in up front honest disclosure.  That, and I've had very reasonable bosses for most of my career.

So Fatty, sign up for Gliffy and I'll give you access - you can modify it yo damn self. :)


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 10, 2008 11:10 AM

Thanks Jack. Now I will never be able to get a new job thanks to the Fatty/Swerb photos! Well, I guess it could be helpful if I change my career to a stripper.

Fatty, why are your employees stalking you?


 
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 10, 2008 12:57 PM

Its not the current bosses that are the problem.  I too have shared the site with my two last bosses.... its the potential ones, but more importantly, the HR lackeys, that will deem you inappropriate for work.  In my case, this is accurate - but they do not need the hint.  Plus, you never know what the future might hold for any of us.  Investigators can be some sweet Mofos.  I guess if someone really needed to, it would not be too difficult to link any one of us back to this site.  Bone for Prez, 2028 is out of the question then.

Bunkz, I was shocked too when my employee confessed that she had got the scoop on me one month before I started.  The team was a little curious on who their new boss was.  A former colleague gave them my name and a little info, then, they jumped into full detective mode.  Most of the team is really sharp.  I have to be careful....

Bunkz if you want more Fatty action, check out my Facebook and Flickr accounts.  Are you as sweet as my team?  Can you get to them?  You already have all the info you need....

 


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 10, 2008 2:19 PM
I have never been on Facebook. Is there a private link where the sweet photos are? I think Bone's crankalicious activities killed his presidential campaign more so than this site!
 
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 14, 2008 10:38 AM

The map is coming along nicely.  I'm about ready to post the first version for feedback and corrections.  Some of the info I got conflicted with other peoples' info, but we will sort that out.  It's on my home computer, so I'll try to post it tonight.


 
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 16, 2008 5:33 PM

Ok, here's the first draft.  I tried to use the 'original' connection where possible.  So while Jack and Bells are friends, if I understood it right, they know each other because of Jack's wife.  Anyway, just a draft.  Give me some feedback and I'll revise.  If you want the original Visio drawing, let me know.  Once we get the layout correct, I'll start filling in the colors, graphics, and goodies.

JA Tree


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 16, 2008 5:38 PM

Keggman should go under Monkey, like Jay B and Kush. So basically, everything goes back to Jack....


 
From: Ross Entered on: July 16, 2008 6:36 PM

It's tough to discern "original connection", and it's unclear whether that really has any meaning, really.  For example, Bells knows Bone and I independently, but if I didn't meet Bone through Bells (it was probably via Shemp, not shown here), I would have met him on my own since we all lived on the same street.  In any case, the connection between Bells and I is older than between Fatty and I, so that's probably where the line ought to be.

Anyway, Jeurge is certainly connected directly to Bells. 

The Bone/Bells/BigFatty/Bert connection is unclear - it almost makes sense to have all of them pointing to each other. 

And is it really true that Angie is the link to Bunky et al?  I thought it was just Zilla online on live?


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 16, 2008 7:39 PM

Actually Ross, I met Jack & Edge (the beginning of the end for my positive feedback rating) through playing online with Supplyguyz, who is Angie brother.

Supplyguyz had been playing with us for awhile on Gears and brought in the rest of the Michigan madness one day. And now, here we are!


 
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 16, 2008 7:48 PM

Right, I will update accordingly.  All I meant by 'original connection' was how the inital introduction/relation was created.  It's the justification I needed to prevent Jack from appearing more important than he thinks he is :)  Arguably, we could take Angie out from between Supply and Jack and connect Jack directly to Supply, but I'm pretty sure the Bunky, et al. connection definately came through Supply.

 


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 16, 2008 9:56 PM

You are correct Robot. This is all Supplyguyz fault! Damn him!


 
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 16, 2008 10:19 PM

From my standpoint....  I'd flip, flop me and Bells.  I was the one to first meet Angie, and Roche was a centralizing person on Godwin.  (Of course move Creeko over with me).  It was through Roche I met the other Godwin group.

Creeko also knew the Bone independantly from the group.  They met at school.

So maybe like this

Angie        Shemp

^             ^       ^

Fatty > Roche >Bert>Swerb>Robot

^              ^

Creeko  >Bone

 

Juerge goes direct to Roche too, but no room on my paper.


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 16, 2008 10:37 PM
Bunky said:

Actually Ross, I met Jack & Edge (the beginning of the end for my positive feedback rating) through playing online with Supplyguyz, who is Angie brother.

Supplyguyz had been playing with us for awhile on Gears and brought in the rest of the Michigan madness one day. And now, here we are!

I claim bullshit on the Supplyguyz/West Coast connection.  I distinctly remember playing Live and randomly joining up with Bunky & crew one day (and making fun of turtle's name).  Then just randomly, days (weeks?) later, playing those guys again.  I remembered turtle's name (and they rememberd me making fun of it) and I remembered Bunky's voice.  We all had a good time and struck up a Friend Request-ship at that time.  Now, Supplyguyz and EDGE may have been playing with me some of those times -- but I didn't connect thru them.

So Spider:  Supplyguyz should be off Jenettie as listed (he's her brother), but Bunky & the west coast crew should all go off of me.  Also, I met Prince.  If Swerb can have an Oliver Stone connection, I should get the Prince connection.  Careful on Prince's nicknames though... he has a shitload of aliases (pronouncable and otherwise).  :)

 


 
From: Swerb Entered on: July 16, 2008 10:50 PM

I would like to point out that Prince is no Kevin Bacon.


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 16, 2008 11:18 PM

Robot, you may have to call on Monkey for the tie breaker. He and Jay B were on at the time as well.

Jack did unleash quite the verbal assault on us, which was exactly our brand!


 
From: Radmobile Entered on: July 17, 2008 7:50 AM

I would suggest moving Natron to a Wonderboy connection rather than Jack's.  As for my bubble, I guess it could be from both Jack and Nick Nick since I knew Jack as the comic shop owner before, but I started hanging out with him through Nick.


 
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 17, 2008 10:25 AM

I smell dotted-lines and asterisks!!  Oh, and tried to connect Jack to Prince, and his aliases broke my font.  Still working on that.


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 17, 2008 10:42 AM

Hey Robot, if you want to keep it simple and connect Jack and Prince (and add some color to your graph), I recommend inserting this picture at the bottom of the line instead of text. No aliases needed! Problem solved.

Click for full size


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 17, 2008 12:39 PM

Don't forget this "love connection":

bb


 
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 17, 2008 3:49 PM

Bunky must love the deformed crab-hands.

Fatty is off to France tomorrow for a weekend wedding.  We are going to a small town outside the city where we went to school together.  Then next week, Fatz is back in France again.  This time Paris for a day, then another wedding.  All these frenchies getting married.  But in both these cases, they are marrying foriegners.

Viva la Grande Fattae!

What?? With all this travel, why isn't Fatty coming to the US???  Rumor has it that Fatty is looking at flights at the last two weeks in October.  Bringing the Family, plus my sister-in-law.

Yes... I know everyone will be in Vegas Cry


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 17, 2008 4:58 PM
Jack is an f'er and will pay when I am off the Crackberry.A Fats Vegas siting would be sweet! I will pack Sweet Baby Rays just in case.
 
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 19, 2008 1:14 PM

Here's 1.1  I think I got most of the updates.  Hopefully the cloud solves the Bone/Bells/BigFatty/Bert connection problem.  :)

JA Tree 1.1


 
From: Bunky Entered on: July 19, 2008 1:22 PM

Looks good. Jack will be happy that he is the center of the JA Incestral Tree. One small change: Jay B met Kush through Monkey T (aka: whore).


 
From: Swerb Entered on: July 19, 2008 9:13 PM

This is hilarious... Kevin Bacon... the Prince symbol thingy... the cloud... "incestral"... Spider, you're one clever sumbitch!

Also, who here remembers when Bert went by Big N Tasty?


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 19, 2008 10:42 PM

Well done, Spider!  The only addition I just thought of is "Crockett" off of me (even though he don't come round these parts no mo').

Now what's next?  Did I read something about a flash animation/game?  And if so, can we add sound?  I have a formidable knowledge of BASIC programming.  Or at least I did 20 years ago.  Let me know if I can be of service.

 

 


 
From: Monkey T Entered on: July 30, 2008 5:28 PM

Actually I believe Bunky did meet Supplyguys 1st but hey, what do I know, we'll just leave that alone.  I meet Manny (GM Kush) through Ray (Sucidal (not suicidal) Ray) and other that that I think you have it.  If you want to update those names - keggman is Bruce and JB is Jason.  You should throw in Nathan (surf ninjas) off of Bunky and just for Jack add in Napalm nate (nathan) off of ghostrider.  One more addition is reaper kegman (Brian) who is ghostriders father and Bruces brother, so he should go between keggwhore and ghost.


 
From: Monkey T Entered on: July 30, 2008 5:33 PM

monkeywomanandjack

 

 

Click for full size

 

bb

 

 

And the winner is......................


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 20, 2008 10:52 AM

Spider!  Weren't we promised some Flash animations and Org Chart games?  Stop doing pussy-ups and get to work!


 

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