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From: BigFatty Entered on: July 3, 2008 11:32 AM
Dude.  Sewing??  Why?  That's what Indian and Chinese kids are for in the textile industry.  I still wonder why 'window treatments' are so expensive.  Ummm... aren't they just cloth on a stick? I guess to macho it up some... you could make your own kites... or take up sail making.  If I EVER catch you making dolies.... well sir, your days will be numbered.
From: Ross Entered on: July 3, 2008 12:11 PM
You're right, Fatty, you're much too manly to sew....
From: NickNick Entered on: July 3, 2008 1:38 PM
Jumpin' Jesus Fuckin' Mary on a Pogo Stick!!!  That ranks right up there with the little comic pamphlets the crazies hand out on the street corner.  Aren't you glad God gave you the skill and the want to be Sewer.  For if it were not so, you never would have been inspired by that wonderful, endearing story of Our Lord, Christ.  Oh, and Spider?  Real men knit.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 3, 2008 1:44 PM
HA HA HA HA HA! I really need to attend church in Michigan. It is so boring out here! We go to church, mind our own business, and don't try to convert anyone! We even have Gay ministers out here. My niece Jade (aka Jaderaide on XBOX, said FBAG last time I was in church). I am going to have to check into this sewing and Christianty thing... Robot, am I going to Hell because I can't sew? Shit! As for Fatty, don't be misled by his lies Robot . Not only does he sew as illustrated above, he makes dolies and rubs them on his crank! Nick Nick, I don't think Robot wants to be a sewer. Not unless he has some weird fetish he has not disclosed yet. A seamstress, or seams-mistress, maybe...
From: Radmobile Entered on: July 3, 2008 1:42 PM
Cross stitching FTW... Ok I was 8 years old at the time.  I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life.  I got better.  Screw you for judging me!
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 3, 2008 2:31 PM
Ross said: You're right, Fatty, you're much too manly to sew....   Oh... you are going to go there???  So, lets get the whole story.  Fatty attempted to sew on a button.  But, he was so incompetent with this task that 'Betsy Ross' soon became exasperated and demanded that he do it. The end result was Fatty's new, button-askew, shirt.  For some reason, Fatty... ahem.. forgot the shirt at Ross'.  But, being the GREAT friend he is, Ross safely delivered the shirt to Fatty 2 years later.  Did you fix the button Betsy???  Come on... tell them! I will admit, this is one of my favorite stories and the picture is a classic.
From: Ross Entered on: July 3, 2008 4:21 PM
Hey, I never claimed there was anything wrong with sewing.  I've sewn more than one superhero costume in my day...
From: The Bone Entered on: July 3, 2008 10:10 PM
It would be manly as hell if you used that sewing machine to stitch up wounds from fighting bears and gladiators.
From: John Entered on: July 4, 2008 7:34 AM
Bone, remember the time we tried to iron our shirts before we went out? We worked hard at it but in the end our shirts looked about the same as when we started. It's possible we were high at the time but I can't remember for sure.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 4, 2008 9:53 AM
Robot, can you post before and after pictures of your wounds/stitches from fighting bears and gladiators?
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 4, 2008 11:43 AM
Self-sewing stitches with a machine is for pussies!  Bone just throws some water on it and takes a nap.  Nuff said!
From: Bunky Entered on: July 4, 2008 11:45 AM
I just threw up in my mouth. Ewwwwwwwww.... Ross, can we get a section added on here called "Confessions of a RobotSpider"?
From: Ross Entered on: July 4, 2008 12:15 PM
Really?  Now we have two lunatics posting FURS (fucked up repugnant shit) here?
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 4, 2008 12:33 PM
Bunky asked for it.  Sounded like she needed some inspiration for what to put on the grill for the 4th.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 4, 2008 1:47 PM
I've got something for Big Fatty's grill on the 4th...
From: Swerb Entered on: July 4, 2008 9:34 PM
Bunky said: I am going to have to check into this sewing and Christianty thing... Robot, am I going to Hell because I can't sew? Shit! Might as well. Makes about as much sense as some of the other reasons Christians preach to hellbound sinners. Sorry, couldn't help it.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 5, 2008 1:24 AM
It's okay Swerb. I find you guys and your hatred for religion entertaining. It does not offend me. Don't worry, I won't leave a religious rant on a greasy paper plate on your car!
From: Ross Entered on: July 5, 2008 7:53 AM
I can't speak for the others here, but I wouldn't exactly call my views on religion "hatred."  It's a bit more complex. I like to use a quote from one of my favorite bloggers, PZ Myers.  I'm paraphrasing: "I have more respect for religious people than you might expect, and less respect for religion than you can imagine." I would say "hate" can accurately describe some of my views toward certain things that organized religion espouses, but not all.  Overall, though, it comes down to whether you think religion is a net positive or negative on humanity.  I come firmly down on the side of negative.  That might not always have been the case, but I think that in our modern times, we can't afford to stifle our critical thinking in any area, and I feel that that's what most religions do in at least some ways.  Some are obviously worse than others.  So do I hate the Catholic church?  I'd have to say yes.  They are consistently on the wrong side of almost every social issue (especially when it butts up against what science tells us) - contraception, stem cell research, etc. - and that actually increases human misery and costs lives.  Let's not even visit their tacit acceptance of child molestation.  So as an institution, I despise the Catholic church.  But let me be clear that that's different than hating Catholics in general.  I think they're very, very wrong.  But the only thing I can do is step up and say why I think they're wrong - unlike their church of old, who if they had their way, would burn me at the stake.
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 7, 2008 7:24 AM
We spent the 4th in Grand Haven right on Lake Michigan.  Had a lovely time and even bought a new kite.  It's super-sweet (as far as kites go). 6' wingspan, and can fly in 1mph wind.  I haven't tried it yet, but at that speed, I could probably fly it with no wind, just walking backwards.  In theory anyway, I'm not going to try it or anything.  I didn't get where I am today by walkin' places. Ross, I have to firmly agree about the net-gain, net-loss point you made.  Without any hard data to back this up, my fallback line about religion is this: More lives have been given/taken in the name of god than for any other reason.  I have a good friend who is extremely Christian, and I always find it interesting that when we discuss world events, I come down on the side of compassion, and he (from the 'Christian American' perspective) comes down on the side of "God's will".  Like the only thing we need to do to stop things in Darfur is to bring 'Jesus into their life'.  Thanks, I think they have enough problems.  Maybe clean water, and agriculture would do them more good than someone asking them to give up their worldly possessions so they can live the 'good life' when they die...  Wow, when you see it in print like that... who falls for that shit? Last stop on my cavalcade of non-sequitors; One of the ten-commandments is "Thou shalt put no god or idol before [me]."  Doesn't that make praying to Jesus sacrilicious?  I know they argue that Jesus was just God's human form, but I don't think that is ever spelled out anywhere.  HERETIC HERETIC!!
From: Bunky Entered on: July 7, 2008 11:12 AM
I really do not enjoy religious discussion, but I have to jump in. Yes Ross, I agree with you on the catholic church. I have many good friends that are catholic and that I struggled with many ideas in that church, my biggest one starting with going to a priest for confession.. Robot, I would disagree with your friend on Darfur. So, if I see you laying on the side of the road bleeding out, I should just assume it's God's will and keep driving? As far a Darfur goes, if I was one to argue religion and push my viewpoints, I would tell your friend that he is the one who needs to find Jesus in his life. We have a moral obligation to help others, not to mention the bible is filled with scriptures on compassion and suffering.
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 7, 2008 1:40 PM
RobotSpider said: I didn't get where I am today by walkin' places. HAHAHA - That is similar to what I like to say....  "I didn't get this way from eating salads!"  Or did you mean it in a more positive way? BTW - for those keeping score - Fatty is now commuting to work via the foot.  It takes five mintues more than the trams (because of the waiting for the trams) and the one way total is 20-30 minutes.  I can take the shorter route, but it is not on the main drag, hence, not so scenic (ie - summertime hotties galore!). I enjoy the walk home especially after work.  Gives me a wind-down time.  Crappy weather, well - then I can hop on the tram.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 7, 2008 3:49 PM
Robot, we are all screwed out here in CA. Everyone is wearing flip flops! Even the kids, mine included! I have been checking out feet today. Thanks.
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 8, 2008 11:57 AM
Bunky said: Robot, can you post before and after pictures of your wounds/stitches from fighting bears and gladiators? Are you not entertained?
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 8, 2008 12:29 PM
Now that is sweet!
From: Bunky Entered on: July 8, 2008 12:56 PM
That is awesome!Nice shawdows!
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 8, 2008 1:00 PM
Thanks.  Actually, just getting Russell Crow out of the picture made it 10 times sweeter.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 8, 2008 1:39 PM
RobotSpider said: Thanks. Actually, just getting Russell Crow out of the picture made it 10 times sweeter. It's a good thing Bells isn't around or a statement like that would bring on some verbal abuse from him!   Something like: "Oh yeah?  Crow could take your chicken sandwich and beat your ass with it!" Well done, by the way!  I'd like to see a Doc Spider Vs. BigFatty Jedi battle!
From: Bunky Entered on: July 8, 2008 1:53 PM
Russell Crow sucks. As for Jedi Big Fatty, can he shed the robe and sport a loin cloth instead?
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 8, 2008 1:59 PM
Jackzilla said: It's a good thing Bells isn't around or a statement like that would bring on some verbal abuse from him!   Something like: "Oh yeah?  Crow could take your chicken sandwich and beat your ass with it!" I never said he couldn't.  But if that's Bell's response, I would question a man who's first sentence in defense of Russell Crow includes the words "beat", "chicken", and "ass".  :) I'm not sayin'...  I'm just sayin'...
From: Ross Entered on: July 8, 2008 2:52 PM
I'll defend Russell Crowe a bit.  He may be a douche in real life, but he's a pretty good actor.  I, for one, enjoyed him in Gladiator, but I really thought he was great in Master and Commander, which is one of my favorite movies of the past 10 years.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 8, 2008 3:17 PM
Some may say the same thing about Tom Cruise, but he's not getting $9 from me at the theater either. I have not seen any of the above movies, nor have I seen anything after Vanilla Sky.
From: Ross Entered on: July 8, 2008 3:45 PM
All I can say to that is if I restricted my movie viewing to only those flicks that were devoid of douchey talent, I wouldn't be watching many movies.  Hell, I even saw Apocalypto even though Mel Gibson is 100 times the douche that Russell Crowe is.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 8, 2008 4:36 PM
Russell Crow?  Mel Gibson?  Tom Cruise? They've all done some good stuff.  The only actor I personally avoid is "Eew"in Mc"Gagger" (Ewan McGregor).  Yes, I still find him excruciatingly annoying.  GET HIM OUT!
From: Creeko Entered on: July 8, 2008 5:16 PM
Ross said: All I can say to that is if I restricted my movie viewing to only those flicks that were devoid of douchey talent, I wouldn't be watching many movies.   Jackzilla said: The only actor I personally avoid is "Eew"in Mc"Gagger" (Ewan McGregor). Yes, I still find him excruciatingly annoying. GET HIM OUT!   I thought Ewan was good in Trainspotting
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 8, 2008 5:18 PM
Creeko said: Ross said: All I can say to that is if I restricted my movie viewing to only those flicks that were devoid of douchey talent, I wouldn't be watching many movies. Jackzilla said: The only actor I personally avoid is "Eew"in Mc"Gagger" (Ewan McGregor). Yes, I still find him excruciatingly annoying. GET HIM OUT! I thought Ewan was good in Trainspotting You're confused.
From: Swerb Entered on: July 8, 2008 5:33 PM
Ross said: I'll defend Russell Crowe a bit. He may be a douche in real life, but he's a pretty good actor. I, for one, enjoyed him in Gladiator, but I really thought he was great in Master and Commander, which is one of my favorite movies of the past 10 years. Amen. Master and Commander is a terrific film. Even better is L.A. Confidential. Gladiator is excellent. So are The Insider, American Gangster and 3:10 to Yuma. Heck, even Cinderella Man is solid, and A Beautiful Mind is decent (if way overrated). I have few complaints with his resume. And how does anyone know who's a douche in real life? Tabloids? I actually met Russell Crowe once, and he seemed like a nice enough guy, and not the twat he's made out to be. He comes off as a bit self-important in interviews, but he didn't seem that way at the press conference I attended. He even made a point to introduce himself to each of about 20 journalists in the room, which not many movie stars will bother to do. And I wouldn't even put him in the same League o' Douchebags as Tom Cruise... I mean, as far as I know, Crowe isn't a scientologist, membership in which should automatically qualify you for government disability checks.
From: Ross Entered on: July 8, 2008 6:06 PM
Swerb said: And I wouldn't even put him in the same League o' Douchebags as Tom Cruise... I mean, as far as I know, Crowe isn't a scientologist, membership in which should automatically qualify you for government disability checks. Agreed, though that means Will Smith as well...
From: Bunky Entered on: July 8, 2008 6:29 PM
Well it sounds like they won't be missing my movie ticket. I still don't care to see their films.
From: Ross Entered on: July 8, 2008 9:30 PM
Jackzilla said: Russell Crow?  Mel Gibson?  Tom Cruise? They've all done some good stuff.  The only actor I personally avoid is "Eew"in Mc"Gagger" (Ewan McGregor).  Yes, I still find him excruciatingly annoying.  GET HIM OUT! I still don't get this irrational hatred of Ewan McGregor - he's also a good actor.  At worst, I could only see someone being indifferent to him.  What is it about him, exactly, that you hate so much?
From: Swerb Entered on: July 8, 2008 10:28 PM
Ross said: Agreed, though that means Will Smith as well... I have no particular affinity for Will Smith. But just because he's a Scientologist doesn't mean I don't admire his performance in Ali or Men in Black. I'd rather separate the douchenozzle from his/her work and judge the film/song/painting/whatever on its own terms. I can also understand Jack's irrational dislike of McGregor, not because it's McGregor specifically, but because sometimes, an otherwise decent actor/actress is just inexplicably irritating. Brendan Fraser is kind of that way for me - objectively, he's not a terrible actor, but in my eyes, he just exudes suckiness at every turn.
From: The Bone Entered on: July 8, 2008 10:53 PM
Will Smith is a Scientologist? That's news to me. Russell Crowe is full sweet. His acting is top notch and he seems like a great guy to me. He's not a sissay ass fagot who'll sue you for starting shit at the bar. He'll give you an old fashion beatdown reminiscent of an era when men where men and not litigous pussies hiding behind lawyers. Mel Gibson is truly Mad Max but he can still direct his ass off. Apocalypto was ery good. Ewan McGregor is great. Best performance, besides Trainspotting, was Moulin Rouge. Pretty gay I know but I was digging it.
From: The Bone Entered on: July 8, 2008 10:56 PM
Ross said: Really? Now we have two lunatics posting FURS (fucked up repugnant shit) here? Who's the other lunatic?
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 9, 2008 7:08 AM
Ok, everyone put down the broken bottles and hay-rakes.  The only reason I mentioned Russell Crow was that he happened to be in the picture.  It was an offhand comment that was supposed to be a self-deprecating poke at my Photoshop skilz implying that it wasn't really what I put INTO the picture that made it sweet, but what I took OUT.  I would have said the same thing had it been... ah, I got ya... You thought I was going to name another actor, didn't you?  I'm not fanning those flames again.  ...had it been any other actor.  Now, everyone shake hands and go back to your respective corners, or Russell Crow fan-club meetings, or wherever you came from... Ok, from now on, I'll just admit when my 'shops are full-sweet.  And this one is full-sweet.  Happy?
From: Ross Entered on: July 9, 2008 7:42 AM
Clearly, you have not read enough threads from this site, Spider.  This kind of shit is what we thrive on. :)
From: NickNick Entered on: July 9, 2008 7:46 AM
RobotSpider said: I would have said the same thing had it been... ah, I got ya... You thought I was going to name another actor, didn't you?  I'm not fanning those flames again.  ...had it been any other actor.   We're you going to mention overrated actors, like Samuel Jackson??  Who, I will admit, was actually good in Black Snake Moan (Oh, his voice over work in Afro Samuri was good as well.), but seems to be the same character in every movie he plays. i.e. Mace Windu as Nick Fury as Shaft.  Which now that I think about it, is probably more an unfortunate side affect of typecasting than his acting skills.  The same logic could be applied to Robert DeNiro.
From: Radmobile Entered on: July 9, 2008 8:08 AM
I want to name my irrationally hated actor.  Denzel Washington.  I just never have an urge to see a movie he's in.  I've seen a couple of his movies that I didn't hate but I'm pretty sure it was despite his performance rather than because of it.  And no I haven't seen Training Day.
From: Ross Entered on: July 9, 2008 8:46 AM
Yeah, I've always kind of felt that Denzel was a tad overrated.  Feels dirty to say it, but there, I have. And let's not forget Samuel L's performance in Pulp Fiction, which is what brought him to prominence in the first place.  One of the best characters in movies in decades. And speaking of potential typecasting or whatever:  Clint Eastwood plays slight variations of the same character in most movies.  Well, there's the cowboy/Dirty Harry character, and then the modern day, older and more subdued version, but you get the feeling he's the same character, just older and wiser.  Unforgiven bridged this gap for him nicely.
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 9, 2008 9:53 AM
NickNick said: ...but seems to be the same character in every movie he plays. i.e. Mace Windu as Nick Fury as Shaft.  Which now that I think about it, is probably more an unfortunate side affect of typecasting than his acting skills.  The same logic could be applied to Robert DeNiro. and Christopher Walken, and Harrison Ford, and Owen Wilson, Jeff Goldblum, any Baldwin...
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 10:53 AM
I don't care if Russell Crowe is super sweet in real life, I generally have no interest in seeing a movie that he is in. Tom Cruise is just an idiot. Brad Pitt has never really done it for me either. I did enjoy him in Fight Club, but overall, I wouldn't he sucks, but he's not super sweet either. (Gasp) Let's not forget Jessica Alba on this list. Go ahead and add Lindsey Lohan, Jennifer Lopez, and Ben Affleck.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: July 9, 2008 11:56 AM
Y'all are crazy.  Denzel is sweet.  Everytime I see a movie with him in it I'm reminded of that.  He can make an otherwise weak movie like Man on Fire sweet with just his mere presence! People like McGagger but not Denzel?  WTF.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 11:59 AM
I have to agree Jack, I do enjoy Denzel. I also enjoy Samuel L. Jackson from time to time. I liked him in Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction.
From: BigFatty Entered on: July 9, 2008 12:47 PM
I am not sure some of these arguments are even logical...  What are we talking about acting skills, or actors we like??  Samuel L. Jackson (why do I have to put in the L??), I like his character, thats right - singular.  He places the same goddamn character in every movie - the cool/ bad ass black guy.  How is this good acting??  I complete agree with RoboGladiator - there are a bunch of actors that are always play the same character.  Ross was stating something similar with Clint.  One could say that are good actors because they play that one character VERY well.  But, after 2-3 times.... ummm move on please.  Now, take Edward Norton.  His performances in American History X and Fight Club.  For the most part, very different.  Or Kevin Spacey (Sp??? Fatty don't care).  Denzel - his characters are similar too, but not like Sammy's.  Robo's list of one-note songs is dead on! The character who knew what acting was all about???  SNLs "I was ACTING!"  Good lord, what is his name....  he was really famous.  Now he is really gone!  I can't even remember his name - no surprise there.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 1:02 PM
Fatty, are you talking about Jon Lovitz's character from the Master Thespian skits who used to shout out "Acting?" Kevin Spacey and Edward Norton are super-sweet! Any guy who can pull of a Barney like character in Death to Smoochie has to be sweet!
From: Radmobile Entered on: July 9, 2008 1:04 PM
John Lovitz?  He is sweet.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 1:06 PM
I always enjoyed Phil Hartman on SNL as well...
From: Swerb Entered on: July 9, 2008 1:41 PM
Hey, let's unearth this old nugget: Keanu Reeves is a terrible actor! And with a new twist (now that Hellboy II opens this week): Selma Blair is the female Keanu. Discuss.   Also: Sam Jackson regurgitates his Jules Winfield moves in almost every movie he has been in since. (The underrated Black Snake Moan is an exception.) Kevin Spacey sucks now. Look at his resume: Usual Suspects, American Beauty, Seven, all awesome... then... uh... thanks for playing! We have some parting gifts for you! I like Denzel's charisma. He's eminently watchable in any movie. Edward Norton is probably the best actor in Hollywood today, in spite of Death to Smoochy, which was putrid. If you haven't seen 25th Hour, you should... Moulin Rouge is a great film. My new hero is Viggo Mortensen. Not just for LOTR, but most recently A History of Violence and Eastern Promises. He fucking rules. Christian Bale is up there as well, for obvious reasons.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 2:09 PM
Agreed Swerb. How could I forget Keanu. Selma Blair is right there with him. I love Bale.
From: NickNick Entered on: July 9, 2008 2:28 PM
Let's not forget Antonio Banderez (sp?)  Looking at this pattern, it seems that the more well known an actor is, the more stagnant he becomes in his characters.  I don't know if it's a case of Hollywood Want's Hollywood Gets, or if the actor just becomes the role, and vice versa.  Swerb, you can probably vouch more for this than any of us, but I will venture to say that actor's "getting into their roles" is hard. i.e. Christian Bale, the Machinist; Jim Carrey, Man On the Moon; Heath Ledger, Dark Knight; Charlise Theron, Monster.  In seeing what this does to the actor/actress, one would assume that the more an actor does That type of acting, the harder it is on him mentally and physically. Just a thought.
From: Bunky Entered on: July 9, 2008 3:39 PM
Beside being super hot, Charlize can act too! What about the enitre cast of Friends?