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Entered on: June 30, 2008 11:38 AM by NickNick
OK. I need some help here. I'm trapped in my in-laws basement for a year and I on'y have room for one computer desk. I find myself in the predicament of having my own computer, with all it's sweetness, and their newer, shinier computer, without all the sweetness.  
 
Since I can't just unplug theirs and plug mine in, I need find a way to network them. Their computer runs on Vista, I believe and mine is on NT. I really just need to be able to access the files on my computer while running the apps on their computer, if that's possible.  
 
Any solutions?? Please, I'm on my knees and ready to please. So help a brotha out.

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From: Creeko Entered on: June 30, 2008 1:37 PM

External HDD??


 
From: NickNick Entered on: June 30, 2008 2:54 PM

Yup.  the tale of Two Towers.


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: June 30, 2008 3:11 PM

NickNick - I think Creeko was suggesting having an external HDD as a solution.  Then you can just plug it into the machine you're using.


 
From: NickNick Entered on: June 30, 2008 3:37 PM

I was hoping for more of the $5 wire from Circuit City solution.  I've got a 2G thumb drive that I can transfer files on but it's rather annoying.  My comic pages take up a rather large chunk of storage space.  Also, I can only run my scanner from my tower.  So I have to hook the moniter up to my tower and scan the images, then copy them to the thumb drive.  Unplug my tower and plug theirs back in and plug in the humb drive and copy the images.  Great fun.


 
From: BigFatty Entered on: June 30, 2008 3:55 PM

Well.... Nick^2... you do have a $5 Circuit City solution that should work, but only for networking.... (Maybe a little more.  If you just want to access your pern on your HD, then you can get a crossover cable to connect the two computers.  Jack even has one floating around his place for the old Xboxes (It is his and mine, so you can have my half... just have him cut it).  Or you can get a cheap hub or router.  I am sure one of your friends has extras (Hint... see Uncle Jack) then you can use normal CAT-5 cables.  Once connect them, it can get a little tricky.  Home networking should be easy, but it never it.  You have 2 different operating systems, so I am out of my league.  I only was able to network to my Xbox but never to my other computer.  Then again, that was with XP and Win98.

But... using applications on your own computer.... Hmmmm.... I don't know how you set it up, but there is a remote desktop function that you can log into your other computer and use it through the network.  From the START\RUN type in MSTSC, then the computer name you want to use on your network.  It opens up a new window with your other computer's desktop.

That is the easy basics.  I am sure Ross can come back and fill in the holes and correct my mistakes.  You still need two computers turned on...

Or if you have a few more dollars, you get a KBM switch that hooks up both computers to the same Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor.  This is the easiest route for you, but should cost $20-$50.  The computers are not connected, but I think you don't want this anyway.  You just have to swap the internet line.

 


 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: June 30, 2008 4:06 PM

Shit ninja!  BigFatty just ran past your $5 budget with his consultation fee for the above text!


 
From: Ross Entered on: June 30, 2008 5:22 PM

Yeah, Fatty, crossover cable is where I was going to go.  I think you pretty much covered it.

A better question is, why are you locked in a basement, Nickers?


 
From: Bunky Entered on: June 30, 2008 11:48 PM

Have you painted any sweet wangs on the wall of your basement?


 
From: RobotSpider Entered on: July 1, 2008 6:32 AM
BigFatty said:

 

But... using applications on your own computer.... Hmmmm.... I don't know how you set it up, but there is a remote desktop function that you can log into your other computer and use it through the network.  From the START\RUN type in MSTSC, then the computer name you want to use on your network.  It opens up a new window with your other computer's desktop.

That is the easy basics.  I am sure Ross can come back and fill in the holes and correct my mistakes.  You still need two computers turned on...

 

If you're running NT, MSTSC won't do you any good.  As far as controlling the NT machine from another machine, try WinVNC.  It doesn't rely on the terminal-services 'virtual' desktop like the XP/Vista/2000 remote desktop support does, so you get the actual desktop to control.  You want version 3 since it's free and works great.  You can even send the ctrl-alt-del command by right-clicking the window title and selecting the option.  Helpful for NT. 

Physically you need three things to get them talking; hardware (hub/switch/router + cable), network protocol (TCP/IP, NetBEUI, IPX/SPX), and access control (username, password and permissions to access the device/resources).

If the machines are on the internet, they already have TCP/IP up and running, so you just need to get them on the same logical network.  It can get very complex, but if one machine's address is 192.168.1.1, with subnet mask 255.255.255.0, you can set yours to 192.168.1.2 through 192.168.1.254, with the same subnet mask.  Alternately, you can install NetBEUI and just not worry about setting the addresses.  You can't route NetBEUI onto the internet, but you can easily have it installed alongside TCP/IP with no problems.

TCP/IP is made a lot easier if you have a cable-modem/dsl router since it uses dynamic addressing (DHCP) and will get you on the same logical network without worrying about addresses and subnet masks.

From there, the easiest way to access your files is to share them on the NT box and set the permissions to Everyone|All (anyone can do anything to any file on your computer.  Dangerous, but easy).  On your Vista box if you open up the Start-->Run command box and type "\\your-nt-address\c$" filling in the IP address of your NT box, it will open the root directory.  Then you just map a drive or create shortcuts to get back there.

I'm leaving a lot out and not doing justice to what I am trying to describe.  If you aren't familiar with any of this or you have other questions, let me know.  I'll just give you my phone number and I can walk you through it, no problem.

Good God, Robot, shut the hell up....  Now to cleanse the palate:  Uh... crank, hit-it, nipples, nipples, herny, OH YEAAAH...


 
From: NickNick Entered on: July 1, 2008 6:37 AM

Not literally trapped in the basement.  Just figuratively.  The basement has our TV in it and I can watch the shows and movies I want to watch without any unrequested input.

Oh, and some clarification.  Megan and I are living with her parents for a year (I know, bright move) while we rent out our house and try to save up some funds.  It's definitely going to take some getting used to.  So far, the hardest part has been getting them to back off from being "Grandma and Grandpa" when I'm trying to be "Dad" and lay down the law.  There's already been a few discussions about this and they know how I feel about it.

I've settled myself to just moving the data through my thumb drive.  I have to use my old PC when I'm scanning my pages in anyway because the driver for that scanner won't install on their computer.  And no, I'm not going to buy another scanner to use for their PC.


 
From: NickNick Entered on: July 1, 2008 6:39 AM

Jack and Rad, this also will double as a subtle hint to see what you're doing on the weekends.  Specifically in an attempt to get you to rescue me once in a while.


 

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