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From: Jackzilla Entered on: November 17, 2007 8:01 AM
I've long known the pleasures of the hot dog.  Recently I've been prone to eating Cheddar Cheese Dogs... MMMmmmm! But I'm afraid I won't be sticking anything called a "Fatty Dog" anywhere near my mouth.
From: BigFatty Entered on: November 18, 2007 7:53 AM
You are just a few simple ingredients away from making your ordinary hot dogs extrordinary!! Yes, your lunch time hot dogs are all about speed and simplicity. But don't you think an added minute to the prep time is worth making your lunch much more enjoyable? We are talking an extra squirt of Mayo, some pickle slices, and a sprinkle of Fatty's secret...... Now, if you want chilli dogs.... thats a bit more messy and time consuming. Last night was burger night, but our friends mistakenly bought ground pork instead of beef. Never fear! Fatty is on the cutting edge of burgertry. Quick, to the spice rack! It was compete free-stylin' spicing. They only spice I knew the name of was cumin (one of my favorites). The end result was some tasty pork burgers. I also had to make soy burgers for my vegan friend. These did not turn out as good, but where decent. One day I hope to be back in the states to work my spice magic on some great US beef and use a proper grill. I've got a whole new repetiore of goodness to share. Hmmm - I think I'll make a Fatty Dog now..
From: Ross Entered on: November 18, 2007 10:17 AM
I've never been much for hotdogs.  Sure, I enjoy a greazy Yesterdog as much as the next guy, and it's pretty much tradition that you have to have one if you go to Wrigley, but if outside those activities, I steer clear of hotdogs.  Not a very pleasant foodstuff overall. And by the way, you philistines, you never put ketchup on hotdogs.  Yellow mustard only.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: November 18, 2007 10:30 AM
That's some good advice, Bert.  Basically: "I don't care much for hotdogs, be sure not to use ketchup." I guess I wouldn't like them much either then.  Start putting down Hot Pockets(TM) and we're going to have some words.
From: Ross Entered on: November 18, 2007 10:53 AM
I haven't had a Hot Pocket since probably junior high but I have nothing bad to say about them.
From: BigFatty Entered on: November 18, 2007 11:12 AM
Ross said:  And by the way, you philistines, you never put ketchup on hotdogs.  Yellow mustard only.   This is why you are missing out on all that a Hot dog can be.  The secret (and it is not really a secret) to any great hot dog or burger is the condiments.  I used to be a condiment minimalist myself: Ketchup, mustard only.  Its what you put on the burger or dog what makes it great.  I've never heard of a burger or dog that you DIDN'T need to put anything on it.  The meat can be made good, but the fixins make it great!  I'll agree that the hot dog is not an appetizing subject to think about.  It should not be make a part of your weekly diet.  But, Damn it, I eat hot dogs once in a while and when I do, its gonna be a great tasting one, not some average dog.
From: Ross Entered on: November 18, 2007 11:38 AM
I'm not saying that it's illegal to put things other than mustard on a hotdog, as I am a fan of various other things such as chili, onions, and pickles.  But ketchup on a hot dog is a travesty against all that is holy, and I'm not the only one who feels that way.  In fact, part of the Chicago style hot dog's description is that it must never have ketchup on it, and as the wiki page says, some places in Chicago will refuse to sell you a hot dog if you ask for ketchup on it.   Ketchup is a mostly-vile substance (this is Serba's strong contention as well) but I do enjoy it on select items such as burgers and fries.
From: BigFatty Entered on: November 18, 2007 12:54 PM
Be careful what you say about ketchup around Jack He has gone overboard with his love of this condiment One time, I had Jack over to my condo for dinner This was way before my culinary sweetness I think burgers and fries where the menu Anyway, I never did much cooking those days, and having a well stock pantry was not even a concept in my head When I pulled out my very small bottle of ketchup, I had found it went bad. Jack was flabbergasted First, he could not imagine that they sold ketchup in such a small bottle. Second, he could not believe that ketchup could go wrong. It was obvious to me that it had - the liquids had separated and the general color was blackish. Plus, the date was one year past expiration. Jack did not know what to do. He could't think about eating fries without ketchup, and he could not imagine ketchup could go wrong. He kept repeating this 'Dude, how can ketchup go bad'. I pointed out the obvious condition of the bottle, and told him - 'Dude, its rotten.' That did not register with him. He decided to try it. Jack shook the bottle up to get a liquid that had the color of dried blood. He then tasted it and declared that it was indeed bad. But, here is the crazy part. His need to have ketchup with his meal was so bad, that he put a nice helping on his plate, and preceeded to use it generously as a dipping sauce. The whole time he was angry at me for letting ketchup go bad. To this day, he will spout off about how anyone could let ketchup go bad, and how strange that is. But for some reason, he does not think that eating ketchup that is one year PAST its expiration date, obviously rancid, plus, him tasting its nastiness and still heaping on a pile of it, is anything but normal behavior.
From: Ross Entered on: November 18, 2007 11:42 AM
That is awesome, and not in the least bit shocking.  Perhaps Jack was confusing ketchup with honey, which in fact never goes bad.
From: Radmobile Entered on: November 18, 2007 11:43 AM
Don't even get me started on ketchup, or condiments in general for that matter.  I have no use for any of them.
From: Ross Entered on: November 18, 2007 11:54 AM
Now you're just being silly.  Sweet Baby Ray's is the closest thing to mana from heaven, as far as I'm concerned.
From: BigFatty Entered on: November 18, 2007 12:44 PM
Ross said: But ketchup on a hot dog is a travesty against all that is holy, and I'm not the only one who feels that way. In fact, part of the Chicago style hot dog's description is that it must never have ketchup on it.   Nice try Ross, but this is ONLY relating to Chicago Style hot-dogs, not all hot dogs. A Chicago dog is a style of hot dog, like a chili dog, or a cheddar dog, and it is called that based on the condiment set. A Chicago Dog would not be a Chicago Dog with ketchup on it, like a chili dog would not be a chili dog without chili (well for purists anyway). I've had a Chi-dog plenty of times, well without the tomato of course! It is a tasty treat. The dog they use is a decent one. Ross said: But ketchup on a hot dog is a travesty against all that is holy HAHAHA! This is the first time I've heard a hot dog, usually made out of the waste parts of animals (ears, noses, cartilidge, and of course anuses!) to be considered a holy artifact. :) Ahem to Sweet Baby Ray's, brother. At least we can all agree on one thing!
From: Ross Entered on: November 18, 2007 5:27 PM
BigFatty said: Nice try Ross, but this is ONLY relating to Chicago Style hot-dogs, not all hot dogs. A Chicago dog is a style of hot dog, like a chili dog, or a cheddar dog, and it is called that based on the condiment set. A Chicago Dog would not be a Chicago Dog with ketchup on it, like a chili dog would not be a chili dog without chili (well for purists anyway). I've had a Chi-dog plenty of times, well without the tomato of course! It is a tasty treat. The dog they use is a decent one. Right, I'm saying that people who know their hot dogs (the guys who invented the Chicago hot dog) have barred ketchup from the game, that's all.
From: The Bone Entered on: November 19, 2007 10:58 AM
Man, I do love a Yesterdog. What's so great is they're made of shitty dogs and shitty bread, but slap some mustard, pickle, and cheese and it's the best thing ever.
From: NickNick Entered on: November 19, 2007 1:41 PM
Nothing beats the Chili Dogs from Ball's ice cream in Lowell.  That's right.  Ball's ice cream.  The people who owned it before their son Jim.  Their names were Harry and Rosey.  Harry and Rosey Ball.  But I digress.  You get one of their chili dogs and every once and a while the chili cheese dog.  Mmmmmmm... MM!! I want one right now. Fatty, I'll have a fatty dog any day you want to give me one.
From: BigFatty Entered on: November 19, 2007 3:16 PM
Wise choice my friend!  Yes, I love Ball's Chili Dog too.  They have a nice trio of fantastic sandwiches that you can cycle through without getting sick of any.  The Chili Dog, the Chicken Salad Croissant with Grapes!, and the world famous BBQ Pulled Pork Sandwich.  Yes they pull their own pork at Balls.  Plus they can throw in a pair of Wacky Eyes (TM) for just 5 cents!  Thats like 4 cents Canadian!
From: Jackzilla Entered on: November 19, 2007 3:27 PM
I only have one more thing to add to the ketchup debate:  Eating hotdogs without ketchup is not only unpatriotic but also supports terrorism.   Regarding Fatty's ketchup story, I'm afraid it's the victim of Bells-like exaggeration for dramatic effect.  Let's clarify: Fact!  Fatty's ketchup came in the smallest bottle I've ever seen (sub-A1 Sauce bottle... more like sample-shampoo size!). Fact!  Inexplicably -- despite the small bottle size -- the ketchup had gone bad. Fact!  Having never witnessed "bad" ketchup I did try it on my fries.  Who has fries without ketchup?  Even Bert has ketchup on fries! Outright Lie!  I "preceeded to use it generously as a dipping sauce" is just not true.  I did try it, confirmed that it was indeed bad, and finished my fries eating them "dry."
From: BigFatty Entered on: November 19, 2007 4:31 PM
See what I mean? Jack, you did squirt some of that vile Ketchup on your plate and you did eat some of it, until your tastebuds overrode your malfunctioning brain. Ok, I will give you that you did not eat your entire meal with the Ketchup - BUT YOU STARTED!!!!! There was a third person there that night, but I cannot remember who it was! Do you remember Jack? Or were you so high from the rancid ketchup that the only people you remember were me, the green monkey, and the scary man under the table? Dude, help me out with the third person! Maybe they can set the truth straight! Was it Nana? Creeko? Roche? Penny? (no it was pre-Penny).
From: The Bone Entered on: November 19, 2007 9:59 PM
I have to side with Zilla on the ketchup issue. A good dog gets better with a squirt of ketchup. Remember when it was spelled catsup? What's up with that?