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From: The Bone Entered on: May 20, 2003 5:32 PM
Good article. When you say this is not old news, do you mean because the study targets specific "functionality genes"?     I had inferred from previous references to the genetic similarity that chimps were more closely related to humans than to gorrillas.
From: Ross Entered on: May 20, 2003 7:54 PM
Yes. Also, I said that because we had heard forever that chimps and humans shared 98% or 99% the same DNA but then I had more recently heard that it was lower, maybe in the low to mid 90s. But I guess the significance of this is that they actually paid attention to the parts of DNA that mean something, since much of the DNA of any organism is filler.     Regarding the chimps relation to us and gorillas, I've read that in several places as well. I also read something recently that's not really related but interesting nonetheless: as a species, since we are so young, we have very little genetic variation (which renders the concept of race, from an evolutionary standpoint, meaningless), and you are more likely to find more genetic variation between any two chimps in a troupe than you would in the two most dissaimilar humans you can find.
From: Ross Entered on: May 20, 2003 7:50 PM
Another good article on it:     http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/05/052 0_030520_chimpanzees.html
From: The Bone Entered on: May 20, 2003 9:09 PM
The May issue of Discovery magazine has the article about genetic variation with regards to humans that you refer to. I read it a couple weeks ago and I thought it was very interesting as well.
From: The Bone Entered on: May 20, 2003 9:10 PM
By the way, we should rename this website, "The Bone and Bert Talk Show"
From: Ross Entered on: May 20, 2003 10:57 PM
Yup, that's where I read it all right.     And I talked to Roche tonight telling him to get his ass on here. He's busy whacking off to old Dark Angel episodes, though. Fatty is probably similarly indisposed.
From: John Entered on: May 22, 2003 3:08 PM
To set the record straight I have not YET whacked off to the old Dark Angel episodes. By the way Bone, your full of shit, she is hot as hell.     I am going to read that article about chimps, it sounds very interesting. Bert knows of course that I love to read new info on this topic.
From: John Entered on: May 22, 2003 3:24 PM
Most people that I've discussed the similarities between chimps and humans have been offended by the notion. Religion is the impetus for this most of the time. People need to get over this and accept their evolutionary roots. It's so obvious yet many deny the connection between chips and humans. DNA shows the strong relation and still people argue with reckless abandon. Every year scientific data accumulates to support evolution and yet so many are quick to overlook it. It truely is a mystery to me.
From: Ross Entered on: May 22, 2003 3:45 PM
We're so far beyond the point of needing any more scientific data to support evolution - it's like saying that there is mounting evidence to support the idea that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom - we have such a body of science and technology built upon these foundational concepts that it's impossible to deny. Anyone who does so is extremely, unforgivably ignorant, be it willingly or otherwise. I have no time to argue with such people anymore. I just mentally mark them down as nincompoops and move on.
From: John Entered on: May 22, 2003 4:10 PM
I could not agree more. Bert, once again you have summed up how I feel about this subject. Nincompoops is an apt description of the people I've delt with on this subject.