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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Entered on: March 21, 2004 1:43 PM by Swerb
Had to start a new topic for this movie, because I just saw it, and fucking LOVED it. What a great film. Y'all need to go see it NOW.  
 
In case you're not aware, the screenplay was written by Charlie Kaufman, he of Adaptation and Being John Malkovich fame... so, yeah, it's a braintwister of a movie, but it's not just wierd, it's funny and touching, too. It's brilliant, dare I say the first great movie of 2004. And be aware, this is not a "Jim Carrey movie" - he's pretty good on a dramatic level, and doesn't go all rubberface, but the movie presents ideas and a story that are both much larger than his performance.  
 
Also, Bert, you probably are aware that Kate Winslet is in it. Any waning obsession I had with her is fully renewed now...

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From: Ross Entered on: March 21, 2004 4:42 PM
Roche called me up to tell me about this yesterday. He too loved it. It's on the top of my list. Maybe I can even finagle in a showing tonight...  
 
I didn't know Charlie Kaufman wrote it, either (in truth I knew nothing about this movie when he called). But that definitely increases my desire to see it.
 
From: John Entered on: March 23, 2004 10:29 AM
I would also like to say that while I like Being John Malkovich I did not care much for Adaptation. Call me crazy or unsophisticated but I thought Adaptation sucked. Eternal Sunhine on the other hand was fucking great and I would recommend that anyone who hasn't seen it should go immediately. In fact, I would like to see it again myself and will purchase the DVD promptly upon it's release. I would like to see your review after seeing it, Bert. I can't imagine it being less than positive.
 
From: Jackzilla Entered on: March 23, 2004 11:19 AM
Angie and I have seldom laughed harder than when we saw Being John Malkovich -- We were already in a silly mood and that movie just fit the bill perfectly! We're both anxious to see Eternal Sunshine. I noticed that Entertainment Weekly gave it an "A".
 
From: Ross Entered on: March 23, 2004 11:50 AM
I liked Adaptation, though I liked Malkovitch more. Funny that I don't have BJM on DVD.  
 
I'm still eager to see Internal Moonshine on the Spotted Rind, but it might have to wait till the weekend.
 
From: Swerb Entered on: March 23, 2004 10:22 PM
Roche, you should give Adaptation another chance. I was disappointed the first time I saw it, but it really "clicked" with me the second time. But I must concur that Malkovich is better, and add that Spike Jonze needs to direct and act more (he was sweet in Three Kings, which is a sorely underrated movie if you ask me). Michel Gondry is one hell of a director too, so his other Kaufman collaboration, Human Nature, is next on my rental list.
 
From: The Bone Entered on: March 23, 2004 10:48 PM
I haven't seen any of theKaufman movies but I agree with Swerb that 3 Kings was underated bigtime. It was fucking great. Even with that fuckturd Jamie Kennedy.
 
From: Ross Entered on: March 24, 2004 8:15 AM
I just love the term "Iraqi Ass Map".
 
From: John Entered on: March 24, 2004 8:58 PM
I liked Three Kings as well. As far as Adaptation goes, I thought the acting was great but the story for me seemed a little absurd in a bad way. Being John Malkovich was absurd in a good way if that makes any sense at all. At the bare minimum Kaufman writes interestingly different movies that are challenging. His scripts don't stick to the Hollywood formula which I like and respect. So for me it's 2 out of 3, not bad.
 
From: Ross Entered on: March 27, 2004 11:39 PM
Okay, we saw it tonight, and even though it was hyped up by you guys, I still loved the damn movie. Big fan. I think it will only tend to grow on me, too. Jim Carrey was sweet, but Kate Winslet was phenomenal. As I was saying to our friends who went with us, although the plot of the movie is sweet where you don't immediately know exactly what's going on, the fact is, once it's over, the movie is still rewatchable because the plot isn't even the best thing about the movie. It's a great character study and it seemed to show just enough of the defining points of a relationship so that you totally bought it. And to me, the best part of the movie was the dialogue. I'm not sure that there is more realistic dialogue spoken anywhere. Now granted, you get great dialogue from the likes of Kevin Smith or Quentin Tarantino or Aaron Sorkin, but it's so good that it's completely fake - no one talks like that in real life. This dialogue is so fucking REAL that I could barely believe it. Charlie Kaufman is a genius. Wow.  
 
Only complaint: Kirsten Dunst should have shown her boobs. I'm not joking here. I was yanked clean out of the movie by the fact that she had to walk around wrapped in a sheet in front of her boyfriend. Totally unrealistic, and totally criminal to the male audience members. Booooo.
 
From: Swerb Entered on: March 28, 2004 10:37 AM
Thing I loved about Eternal Sunshine was its perfect balance of good story, human emotion, humor and clever filmmaking and writing. Like Lost in Translation, the funny scenes didn't exist just to make you laugh - they were also revelatory, character-wise. My fave sequence is when Carrey is in the kitchen as a little kid, and he's hiding under the table, and eating the giant cookies... absolutely brilliant.  
 
The movie is a real step forward for Kaufman. His other movies were great just for being so "out there," even if they occasionally sacrificed character for wierdness.  
 
So Bert, I'm starting to agree with you more and more about Ebert. His review said he couldn't always tell whether the events of the film were occurring in his head or in "reality" - but I always could. I never had a problem following it, and that's another reason the movie is a work of genius; it never alienates the audience by making it too much of a "puzzle" movie. You're right - Ebert has lost it.
 
From: Ross Entered on: March 28, 2004 10:48 AM
I haven't seen Ebert and Roeper lately, so I have been relatively free from his brand of mental ineptitude. Yeah, it was always apparent when you were seeing his memories or something he was altering. Cram another Tomb Raider down Ebert's hole, and shut him up.  

 
From: The Bone Entered on: April 10, 2004 12:21 PM
I have finally succumbed to the hype and watchd ESOTSM. I have to admit it was superb. For the first time in my life I actually liked Jim Carey (I really hate him!). Everyone had a top notch performance - Kate Winslet was amazing, although I hate her too. The story was unique, although I thought predictable. The dialogue was among the most realistic of any movie I've ever seen. I also have a huge infatuation for Kirsten Dunst and she was looking Kung Pao in her panties and see through shirt. I agree with Bert, she should have been naked - although I would have had to run to the bathroom and might have missed the rest of the movie if that were the case.  
 
Great movie!
 
From: John Entered on: April 14, 2004 4:16 PM
I saw this movie again with Fatty and the crew last night and I couldn't agree more Bert, this movie is rewatchable big time. I loved it even more the second time around. It did a near perfect job of making you believe Carrey and Winslet were in a waning relationship. I found myself moved (not to tears) by Joel's attempts in the movie to hold on to the good memories. This movie shows that as bad as it can get in a relationship you would never want to wipe it clean.  
 
I paid special attention to the dialog the second time out and it was incredible how realistic it was. The exchanges between Clemintine and Joel were near perfect. I like how seemingly trivial debates would escalate into spiteful arguments like when they talked about having children. This is so true.  
 
To bad Fatty had to take a shit the whole movie and this detracted from his enjoyment. Zilla seemed to like it though and I'd like to hear what he thought.
 

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