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From: John Entered on: April 2, 2003 12:11 PM
I thought you were on the zone diet Bone, this sounds more like you are on Jack's vaunted calzone diet.
From: The Bone Entered on: April 2, 2003 3:43 PM
I'm on the "Bone Zone", a slight variation. Example, I don't give a damn about the glycemic index of any fruit or vegetable. I'm not afraid of cereal. I also excercise way more than the Zone suggests. Also, I apparently eat way more than the measley 1500 or so calories than you'd get on the Zone. Way more.
From: Ross Entered on: April 2, 2003 5:08 PM
Wow. I monitor my calorie intake fairly closely, and since I increased my intake, I'm still only at 1650 or so per day. And I work out about 5 times a week.     But I sure as hell am afraid of cereal! I'd be a fat greazy hog if I even so much as looked at a Lucky Charm or a Golden Graham.     I'll say one other thing: at dinner for the past couple weeks I've taken to eating a fairly sizable salad consisting of half a bag of baby spinach, cherry tomatoes, mushrooms, and red peppers (not spicy). More than half the time after eating this, in LESS THAN AN HOUR I am shitting pure liquid. Last night was the worst: I hit the bowl no less than six times in the span of 2 hours. Today my ass is still raw. I wonder if it's the giant injection of fiber that I'm getting into my system or what? But how could it act so quickly? Whatever the case, I'm not eating salad for a while. It's way easier to eat black beans to get carbs in a much smaller volume, and they are also Zone favorable and quite tasty.
From: John Entered on: April 2, 2003 7:48 PM
I to have eaten my fair share of what I refer to as giant salads. Contrary to Ross's results, I find I have nice hard satisfying shits. Eating large amounts of vegetables seems to have an opposite effect on me. The zone diet has afforded me other benefits as well. Fat loss, and a huge drop in blood pressure come foremost. Continuing the zone may well save me from an early heart attack, so I will endeavor to continue.
From: The Bone Entered on: April 2, 2003 9:33 PM
I'm definitely going to monitor my caloric intake more closely and drop it down to 2k-3k vice 4-5k. I think my resting metabolic rate coupled with my daily activity warrants this range. 4-5k calories is a lot. I had been eating more than usual during the period of the survey. As cereal goes, I'm a big fan of Kashi Go-lean cereal. I throw in some blueberries and slivered almonds and it tastes great. Plus it has 8 grams of protein, 28 grams of carbs, of which 10 are comprised of fiber, and only 1 gram of fat. Plus you get a decent amount of vitamins and minerals in a 120 calorie shot. My turds are range the gamut between log and squish. Fiber has a tendecy to make them firm, however don't eat a whole box of fiber one or you'll be fucked.
From: The Bone Entered on: April 2, 2003 11:50 PM
Also, anyone going from a high calorie diet of junk food to a diet of 1650 calories from unprocesses vegetables and protein is going to lose weight and reduce blood pressure., whether it's the zone or just eating right. I did a little research around the web and a moderately active female wieghing 130 lbs needs about 1800 calories to maintain her weight.
From: Ross Entered on: April 3, 2003 9:53 AM
It sounds like that cereal of yours is decent, and not very high in calories which is the main problem with cereal. Though I'm skeptical of cereals that tout vitamins and minerals and shit. I've read numerous accounts of manufacturers just throwing the minerals in the box, or sprinkling it on the flakes. It's often completely undigestable.     I agree that John's tremendous health gains are largely due simply to reduced caloric intake and imroved quality of food (and exercise), rather than following the Zone, per se. On the other hand, the Zone seems tailor-made for people with trends toward heart disease, and those who have strong insulin responses to high glycemic foods as it appears that John does. I do too, but the jury is out on heart disease with my genes - my dad's side gets it, my mom's side never does, and it appears that I am built more like my mother. And the last time I got my cholestrol measured - about 2 years ago, when I wasn't eating particularly well - it was in very good standing. In any case, I'm not fucking around with that guessing game.     Special followup report: had no salad last night (broccoli and black beans for carbs this time) and no terrible shit stories to report. I'm sure it's only one of the ingredients that's causing the problem, but I'm steering clear for a while. Never thought I'd be saying beans makes my shits BETTER...
From: BigFatty Entered on: April 3, 2003 1:15 PM
I have an interesting aside that goes with Ross' comments on big salads. My problem is with iceberg lettuce. I do not digest it well. I see pieces of it floating in the bowl every time I eat it. On the other hand, when I eat baby leaf spinach, my poops are solid - and no leaves! I cannot explain Ross' green gaint squirts. I'm not sure that the spinach could be liquified so quickly. But they may act as a huge, fiber plunger and push your system along before it was good and properly digested.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: April 7, 2003 12:06 AM
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