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NEWS 101 - 19 Comments
From: Ross Entered on: August 22, 2003 8:48 AM
Heather asked me last night if we were going to go see it. I've been hearing it was good but two things were keeping me apprehensive: Costner, and the fact that people are throwing around the holy Unforgiven for comparison a little too much for my taste. Anyway, I told her that I'd wait for more reviews before I made up my mind but yours is enough for me: we'll see it.     American Splendor just opened here today so that makes two movies I need to see.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 22, 2003 9:32 AM
Both AMERICAN SPLENDOR and OPEN RANGE were already on Ang & I's TO SEE LIST! I'm glad they're good!     Have you guys ever read Harvey Pekar's comic? I've read them off and on since the 80's. Being a huge LATE NIGHT with DAVID LETTERMAN fan (back in high school I used to tape it and watch it after school), I used to love Harvey's appearances on there. I think his last appearance was when he was calling G.E. (NBC's parent company) an evil corporation. Those were the days: Dave in in the velcro suit, Dave riding around with Zsa Zsa Gabor and eating taco bell, Larry "Bud" Melman... Now Dave just sits behind his desk doing the Top Ten List.
From: Ross Entered on: August 24, 2003 11:31 PM
Went to see it tonight. Swerb, you're a shootin' straight that it's the best western since Unforgiven but then again I don't reckon I remember much about no westerns since them days anyhow.     Costner didn't piss me off none, he weren't offensive like his usual self. Don't usual much care fer that Benning filly, but I kinda took a shine to her, too. And that goddurned Robert Duvall fella is about the finest actor I'd ever seen with my own two eyes, a-yep.     Anyhow, I liked it fine. It slowed down in some parts but the gunfightin was fun. It ain't no Unforgiven, though, no sir.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 25, 2003 8:29 AM
Went to see it last night. We liked it a lot. Duvall is just sweet in that kind of a role. And I realized how much I enjoy seeing an older guy knock the shit out of a cocky, younger fella.
From: Swerb Entered on: August 25, 2003 9:14 PM
Yeah, the scene where they sneak up on the guys in the dark is sweet as hell, and, of course, the gunfight at the end... especially when he just walked up to the one dude in the bowler and blasted 'em right thar in the haid - I saw the movie in a private screening with a couple of friends, and we were practically cheering when that happened. The cinematography is excellent, Costner is a lot less self-indulgent than usual, and yeah, Duvall is awesome (he does have all the best lines). My only problem is that the Benning love story seems a bit shoehorned in there (not quite capricious and arbitrary, though).     And that's my comment, as writ by me.
From: Swerb Entered on: August 25, 2003 9:24 PM
By the way, did anyone else chuckle at the idea of "open range" being similar to "free range"? Although I think few of us are cowboys wandering the prairie with their herd of cows anymore, we're mostly staying on the ranch these days. Metaphorically speaking, that is...
From: John Entered on: August 25, 2003 9:44 PM
Looks like I better find time to see this one. I love Unforgiven and would like to see a western that can compare. By the way Zilla, you need to see Unforgiven, it really is a sweet movie.
From: Creeko Entered on: August 26, 2003 2:37 AM
Best line from Unforgiven:     "Anyone who dosn't want to get killed better head on out the back."
From: Ross Entered on: August 26, 2003 8:28 AM
I just kept humming "Home, home on the range" the whole day.     I agree about the Annette Benning love story and I said exactly what you said to Heather. I always prefer just sticking to the matter at hand - some killings. But they did set it up reasonably well with Duvall's character planting that seed based on his until-then-unknown marriage.     Basically, the movie was a LOT like Unforgiven. But not as well made, of course. It was still well made, don't get me wrong. But Unforgiven was subtle in ways that this movie clunky. My primary example: when the typical A-Team bad guy Baxter (so inferior to Little Bill in every respect) demonstrates his power by flaunting his control over the sheriff, Duvall later explains in words what had occurred, for us dolts in the audience who can't keep up. The movie lost big points with me there. Unforgiven treated us with more respect.     However, Robert Duvall was easily as good as any performance in Unforgiven, and that's saying a lot.     ...and the skies are not cloudy all dayyyyyeeeeee....
From: Ross Entered on: August 26, 2003 9:25 AM
That's a good quote Creeko, but you shouldn't have gotten me started. My other favorite Unforgiven quotes:     "All right now, I'm comin' out! Any man I see out there, I'm gonna shoot him. Any sumbitch takes a shot at me, I'm not only gonna kill him, I'm gonna kill his wife... all his friends.... burn his damn house down!"     "...said the Duck."   "The, uh, Duke. It's the Duke. The Duke of Death."   "Duck, I says."     "Hell, even I thought I was dead. Till I found out that it was just that I was in Nebraska."     "You better bury Ned right! And don't you go cutting up or otherwise harming no whores, or I'll come back and kill every one of you sons of bitches. "     "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."   "I'll see you in hell, William Munny!"   "Yeah."     "You just shot an unarmed man!"   "Well, he should have armed himself, if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend."     and the Oscar clip:     "It's a helluva thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got... all he's ever gonna have."   "Yeah, well, I guess he had it comin'."   "We all have it coming, kid."     and quite possibly my favorite:     "That's right, I've killed women and children. I've killed everything that walks or crawls at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you done to Ned. "
From: John Entered on: August 26, 2003 10:30 AM
That was a sweet compilation of most of my favorite lines from Unforgiven, Bert. I also love, "Would you get him a goddamn drink of water, we ain't gonna shoot."
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 26, 2003 4:16 PM
So when do I get to borrow UNFORGIVEN, Johnny? I've watched the DAREDEVIL bonus material but we haven't gotten to DARK ANGEL yet. Ang & I borrowed DESPERADO from my mom too because Ang hasn't seen it (and the sequel ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO is coming soon!).     - Jack, The DVD Borrower.
From: Swerb Entered on: August 26, 2003 10:01 PM
Ross, you forgot "I killed the hell out of him. Shot 'im twice when he was takin' a shit!" I'm surprised you didn't include more lines from the Schofield Kid.
From: Ross Entered on: August 26, 2003 10:33 PM
Swerb - "Three times and he was taking a shit."     Jack - You need to watch El Mariachi, THEN Desperado.
From: Swerb Entered on: August 27, 2003 5:03 PM
I totally expected a correction. I'd be disappointed otherwise.
From: Ross Entered on: August 28, 2003 10:10 AM
Heather and I watched "The Core" last night. I was cracking up because she was getting irritated that I could predict all their "science" before they said it. In reality though, I'm not so sweet because the movie had some seriously overblown ideas of what would happen if there was a problem in the earth's core. Still, we had fun with the movie, but afterward I had to look on my favorite movie physics site to see them rip it apart. And rip it apart they most certainly did. Don't read this if you don't want the movie ruined for you:     http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/core.html     I knew there were some stupid parts but these guys ripped it a new arsehurl, and I think in some cases they were overly harsh. Still, stickler that I am, I was still able to suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy the movie. If you're bored without anything to rent sometime, I give it just barely enough endorsement to say rent it. NOTE TO SWERB: this does not apply to you. You will hate this film.
From: John Entered on: August 28, 2003 1:09 PM
Zilla- You can borrow Unforgiven any time you like. I'll bring it the next time I'm out that way.
From: Ross Entered on: August 28, 2003 1:32 PM
I'm pretty sure Zilla will like it - perhaps not worship it as Roche and I do, but you'd have to be a brain-dead asshat to not to at least like the movie. But hey, that's just my (inherently superior) opinion.     If anyone says they didn't like the movie, I'll kill him... all his friends... and burn his damn house down for good measure. In short, everyone on here is dead if Zilla gets lippy.
From: Jackzilla Entered on: August 28, 2003 4:16 PM
Ross - You sound like that one ninja. You know the one that killed everyone in the town when some kid dropped his fork? Because you see ninjas can kill and kick ass but they can also be very precise.